I do not like the colors of the sails so that is not an option.If you are racing and your club doesn't require a class-approved sail, just buy the race-cut sail from Intensity Sails with a window.
$120 + shipping
or if you want colors: Red, White & Blue Race Cut sail for the Sunfish
You might want to check out Neil Pryde- good sails, lots of color choices, and the price is right. A window is added to any sail for an additional $25. Made right in CT.
If you want the Sunfish on it you can make them from insignia cloth. I also see someone on ebay is selling them 2 for $25 (one for each side)product category - Neil Pryde Sails International
Neil Pryde sails are a combination of craftsmanship, technology and efficient manufacturing methods.Our extensive experience, traditional handwork, attention toneilprydesails.com
Sounds like your sail is otherwise in great shape. For top dollar I’d put it on eBay with some good pics. Shipping in US is about $15 so pass that on to the buyer.
You might come close to breaking even on the swap!
The Pryde sails were cut very flat. No power. They also used to install windows with a grid pattern in them.Those are some good prices on the sails if the quality is decent.
Pryde is listing its colored sails at 83.6 sq feet with slightly longer luff, leech and foot. Sunfish Direct colorful class legal sails are 75 sq ft. So it would seem that the Pryde sails offer a little more performance than the standard class legal...Yes?The Pryde sails were cut very flat. No power. They also used to install windows with a grid pattern in them.
I don’t think so. Sunfish sails from the manufacturer have changed over the years , esp the racing sail which has a lot more draft, but still claim to be 75 sq feet. The Pryde sail may be more accurately measured, and the let new one I saw about 2 years ago was very flat.Pryde is listing its colored sails at 83.6 sq feet with slightly longer luff, leech and foot. Sunfish Direct colorful class legal sails are 75 sq ft. So it would seem that the Pryde sails offer a little more performance than the standard class legal...Yes?
Ahh, okay. I have a race cut practice APS sail, do you happen to know anything about those? Are they the same dimensions as the class legal race cut? Since they are out of business, I'm having trouble finding any info. If I wanted a slightly less drafty sail for gusty mountain lake sailing do you have a company you would recommend? I don't need class legal.I don’t think so. Sunfish sails from the manufacturer have changed over the years , esp the racing sail which has a lot more draft, but still claim to be 75 sq feet. The Pryde sail may be more accurately measured, and the let new one I saw about 2 years ago was very flat.
Did you earlier ask the same question on my blog?Ahh, okay. I have a race cut practice APS sail, do you happen to know anything about those? Are they the same dimensions as the class legal race cut? Since they are out of business, I'm having trouble finding any info. If I wanted a slightly less drafty sail for gusty mountain lake sailing do you have a company you would recommend? I don't need class legal.
Yes, I did. I saw that you mentioned APS on your blog. A simple recreation sail may be enough of a reduction for my purpose. I'll take a look at the minifish sail.Did you earlier ask the same question on my blog?
Your best option would probably be a Minifish sail. You might find a used one for sale here on the Sunfish Forum, or Neil Pryde sells brand new ones for a pretty reasonable price. Neil Pryde Mini-Fish Sails
My understanding of the APS race cut sail and the Intensity Sails race cut sail is they are meant to be a close replica of the “class legal” version from LP. I’m not sure if just going to a rec sail would make enough difference, but you could try it.Yes, I did. I saw that you mentioned APS on your blog. A simple recreation sail may be enough of a reduction for my purpose. I'll take a look at the minifish sail.
Absolutely! I have been doing a lot of research on rigging options. Thank you. I questioned trying out the original sail, which I still have, to see if it was any better, but I'm afraid it would shred into a million bits. It is super soft and thin, kind of like a bedsheet after over 40 years.My understanding of the APS race cut sail and the Intensity Sails race cut sail is they are meant to be a close replica of the “class legal” version from LP. I’m not sure if just going to a rec sail would make enough difference, but you could try it.
Also might be worth looking into setting up a Jens rig. And adjusting your gooseneck setting depending on the wind speed.
I do not like the colors of the sails so that is not an option.
I sell new Sunfish sails with windows for $165 plus shipping. I have about 6 color choices.
Blue Wave: blue, light blue and white
Sunrise: Blue, red, orange, gold, yellow and white
Dragon: Blue, red, green, light blue, yellow and white
Mackinaw: Blue, white and green
Red and white
Go Navy: yellow, blue and white
Two years ago, I bought two sails (unknowingly blind to manufacturer) from an Intensity sale (advertised here).Pryde is listing its colored sails at 83.6 sq feet with slightly longer luff, leech and foot. Sunfish Direct colorful class legal sails are 75 sq ft. So it would seem that the Pryde sails offer a little more performance than the standard class legal...Yes?
The sail areas listed by certain manufacturers are not reliable, IMHO.
I believe (!) that it's not that trivial to measure total area because of the depth of the sail.
Before a storm's "microburst" bent my mast and shredded my sail, I had a "race" sail I would have termed "blown-out". (Fully raised in calm air, the sail's foot would hang over both sides of the boom).Guessing you didn't fair well in high school geometry?All sunfish sails built to the standard dimensions of 13.33, 14.5 and 13.33 are going to be at least 81 sqft. Add luff curve and foot round and you get to the 82-83sqft depending on how the luff and foot are shaped.
I have no idea where the "75" sqft area came from, but it was wrong then and it's wrong now.
Here's a simple way to check three sides of a triangle:
Easy to use if you don't know the right angle distance (Luff perpendicular) to figure out area in the more common high school geometry formula: as A=h*b / 2....and this is still a straight triangle...no rounds.
The depth of any sail (spinnakers excluded) comes from luff curve and foot round with about 2% in camber coming from broadseam...so when we (Neil Pryde Sails) say that our sails are a certain area this is based on the CAD calculated area of each panel, so in fact we are actually being very reliable and truthful.
Our sunfish sails have about 7.5 inches of luff round. I've sailed with them and they are far from being remotely flat. This is a myth that has been repeated on many posts here. Just saying, as I have been designing and making sails since 1976..pre-computer era to today's flood of technology and have a pretty good idea of what constitutes a flat or full sail.
Bob Pattison
Neil Pryde Sails