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With higher wind speed the sunfish rails easier than the phantom and if during these moments you can get the sunfish flat on the water it is a faster more exciting ride...also the sunfish needs more tweaking which if done properly is very satisfying....for me my sunfish has always been 140 lbs...

Got a phantom sailboat and restored it....I also restored s sunfish a few years back.....my thoughts on both boats is that the phantom is more comfortable,the edges of the cockpit are smoother and larger...The sleeved sail seems to give a better foil...the wider beam gives at times a faster more...

thanks lots for your reply...it's answered a month long question....I have found the clip which I originally had no idea where it came from...pop riveted it on the gudgeon and my sailing life became incredibly easier ...Thanks much...

I have a 82 phantom sailboat that I am restoring...the rudder system is such that it fits on the gudgeon ..I think it's called.....by gravity alone and we just hope it doesn't come off...does anyone know if there is a clip or another part that assists it in place?? Thanks

Please help me with this....do I put the foam along the sides where the blocks meet the hull of do I try to get it along the base of the foam block,the underneath side???thanks

Yes....it is black...it's a type of polyurethane expanding foam.they attach items underwater sometimes inside a aquarium with this stuff......the yellow foam absorbs water so can't be used

I need to reinforce a foam block inside the hull...4 feet on port side..saw this expanding foam called "pond and stone"..it comes in a aerosol can...it's totally waterproof and does not absorb water...the company states their yellow expanding foam absorbs water but not this....anyone ever use...

Love it and also aids in the drying out process if its waterlogged!!

I have been reading a lot of info on leakage of phantoms around the bailer.I am going to remove the bailer entirely and only use a plug.I have done the same thing with my sunfish and it has worked well since I only sail a lake.removing the phantom bailer entirely leaves 4 holes..I will epoxy...

Thanks for that info...after restoring the phantom i will have a true story since I already have a sunfish.

Can't wait to see the finished product.btw I think have a book you published about restoring sunfish and I love it...i re-read it constantly or just admire the before and after pictures.

One would think that the phantom would be faster due to it's width.the reasoning for that is with wind surfing boards they totally changed the design to make them wider especially in the stern so that they don't drag ,and release from the water and plane quicker.

But the phantom has a listed weight of 120 while the sunfish has a weight listed of 130 or is all that approximations?thanks....also I seem to hear slot of phantoms have problems with their bailers...might it be better to remove it and just use a plug??I did that on my sunfish...Thanks again...

Thanks so much for that info and i intend to put it there...

Thanks so much for that info and a pic of your boat.I think I will put a 5 inch port where there is a depression between the coming an d the dartboard slot...please tell me did you feel the phantom was faster or more maneuverable than the sunfish?

I have a waterlogged phantom I was given weighs 165 lbs and I want to put 2 ports in...are the best locations the same as a sunfish...between daggerboard and coaming ?6 inch from rudder?also this boat is wider than my sunfish...seems it would be fater,less drag.