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Banoe

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I also have a Flying Fish. I have the original owners manual and bill of sale came with the boat. Picked it up for free guy was going to saw it up and throw it away. I had to glue the sail track back on the mast and clean it up a bit. Great boat very stable and the boom is over your head so less brain clunking. I would love to find out where I can get a new sail luff track for it the one I have i getting pretty shot.
 
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Lee In VT

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Hi, I'm doing some repair work on my old Flying Fish and would like to contact other owners with a few questions. I love the boat but when we pulled it out last fall there was a lot of water to drain out, so I'm chasing potential leaks. Getting a late start this year. Any of you guys still monitoring this site?
Lee
 
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Dave Lang

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Yes, I have a Flying Fish. Very fun to sail. I picked up a couple of years ago. All original except mast. The mast that I bought it with was much smaller in diameter than the mast hole. It also had a fore stay and one on each side. I reduced the mast hole with PVC pipe and a foam noodle. It's a very snug fit now and sails like a champ! I will try to post some pics soon. Has anyone been able to polish the deck? The top side is VERY weathered.
Dave
 
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Lee In VT

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Got mine last year, for my wife and I to learn to sail. Lots of fun and fright at times. Interesting about your mast. I think the mast hole on mine was once replaced. My mast base is too small in diameter, but someone fiberglassed 'bulges' at the bottom and top of the section of mast where it sits in the hole (hourglass shaped sort of), to make for a good fit. Also the bottom of the mast hole has a metal plate with a raised central "nipple" that fits into a matching plate on the mast bottom. I just did a bunch of minor fiberglass repairs, chasing a leak and reinforcing the mast base, mast hole, cockpit, and hull. You can see my boat looks kind of rough, it's been used, but still sails great. But it drained a lot of water when I pulled it out last fall. The deck surface has a lot of crazing and is rather dull, but I figure it's less slippery and appears intact. I'll bet a good car wax would work to polish it, but I'm only guessing.

If you look close at my enlarged pic, there is a small pulley at the base of the mast. Looks like it's for the halyard, to help raise the sail, but I'm not sure how to use it. Does your boat have that pulley? I find raising the sail alone is challenging, a definite two hand operation, to keep feeding the sail into the mast groove while pulling on the halyard. I lubed the groove with silicone spray, but still it takes a pretty strong pull, the further up the sail goes. At the same time it's difficult to keep the sail feeding cleanly into the groove with my other free hand. Do you have this problem? Perhaps the bottom of the mast groove is too worn/wide, or maybe this is just the way it is. We talked about having the sailmaker sew on little attachments (snails?) that would ride easily up the mast groove, rather than feeding the sail itself into the groove, make it easy to hoist. But I like how the sail and mast form a clean unit for airflow, and the ability to overrotate the mast while sailing, to tweak the shape of the sail.
Lee In VT (Lake Champlain)
 

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Glennrmccall

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Hey lee,

I bought a Flying Fish about a year ago! Had to build a rudder from scratch. Now it looks like I need to rebuild the mast. It seems one of the previous owners patched it after it suffered some serious damage.

In reply to the difficulty of raising your sail, make sure your pully at the top of the mast is free. Mine was frozen. Also, I noticed that the sail will get snagged in the grove if it is not guided properly. I typically have the rope to raise the sail in one hand and guide with the other.

I assume you still have your boat and all is well?
 

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Araanim

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I'm a bit confused about the rigging of the halyard on this? There's a small loop that sits right in front of the mast, then there's a cleat to port of the mast that I assume you would tie off too. But then Lee's picture shows a pulley attached to the front of the vang? I don't think mine has that. Any tips on how it's actually supposed to rig up?
 
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Araanim

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Araanim said:
I'm a bit confused about the rigging of the halyard on this? There's a small loop that sits right in front of the mast, then there's a cleat to port of the mast that I assume you would tie off too. But then Lee's picture shows a pulley attached to the front of the vang? I don't think mine has that. Any tips on how it's actually supposed to rig up?
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Araanim

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So I have recently got a Flying Fish from a friend that had no sail and a broken mast. I just happened to have the mast and sail of a Jetwind (Snark Mach II) lying around (the boat itself was long gone) so with some modification we rigged it up with that! It's definitely about half the sail area it's supposed to have, but the Fish is so broad that it barely heels at all, and can still pick up some decent speed. Makes for a great cruiser, especially with those nice wide seats! I'm excited to take her up to the lake next week. (Hence why I'm trying to figure out the proper rigging.)
 
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leakyflyingfish

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hi, all,
I bought a flying fish about 20 years ago and used it part of one season before it started to take on water and sit heavy and low. then we noticed some cracks in the bow and haven't used it since. still have all the original parts and want to try again. any suggestions as to how to fix the cracks?
 
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Araanim

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leakyflyingfish said:
hi, all,
I bought a flying fish about 20 years ago and used it part of one season before it started to take on water and sit heavy and low. then we noticed some cracks in the bow and haven't used it since. still have all the original parts and want to try again. any suggestions as to how to fix the cracks?
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From what I've heard, something like JB Weld is strong enough to seal up the plastic shell. Just smear it in there and make sure you squish it all the way into the crack. When it hardens, you can sand it smooth. If its a serious crack, you might have to do some actual fiberglass work to patch it (which isn't a HUGE deal, as I've been told.)

I would take another look at the boat though. Superficial cracks in the plastic shell probably aren't enough to cause serious leakage. I would check instead at the joints and seams, especially at the daggerboard. The Flying Fish sits so high in the water that that's pretty much the only place water COULD get in.
 
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By the way, got a chance to take my Fish out last month. Had a couple good sails, but unfortunately it was pretty hot and windless most of the week.
 
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monkey4life

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Wow. A somewhat recent thread about the flying fish. I have one I got in trade two months ago and man I love the thing. Plenty of character. Hull number is 503, with a green topside. Other than a crack that I had to fix in the mast step tube, and some gelcoat issues its a blast on the water. Previous owner had to fix the mast (boat had tipped and snapped the carbon fiber about 4' from the tip), but I'm glad to see there are other mast alternatives if it ever fails.
 
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MattRixx

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While going through my parents old barn, I discovered an original "like new" AMF Alcott Flying Fish mast, complete with hardware.

It had been ordered for their FF, but was never used. If I remember correctly, there was only one OEM mast left when they ordered it.

Anyone know if there is any interest in this mast? Thanks for any info you can supply.
 
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monkey4life

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MattRixx said:
While going through my parents old barn, I discovered an original "like new" AMF Alcott Flying Fish mast, complete with hardware.

It had been ordered for their FF, but was never used. If I remember correctly, there was only one OEM mast left when they ordered it.

Anyone know if there is any interest in this mast? Thanks for any info you can supply.
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Interested, Where is the mast located?
 
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Quietfire

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I just picked up a 1982 Flying Fish I a few weeks ago. It had been sitting on the other side of the Chesapeake in VA for about 10 years. So far I've replaced every rope on her and about 70% of the rivets. Getting ready to do the last remaining rivet this week. Unfortunately the rivets holding the jib pulley tracks down had to be replaced. I ended up cutting 6" holes in each side of the cockpit and putting in access ports with water proof bags, so I made the best of it.

I have 2 questions. Has anyone found a cheap way to put new rollers on the reefing claw? And does anyone have a diagram of the rigging for the hiking handles?

I've had her out once with no wind, but still loved it. I am a fan of light wind sailing's challenges. I will say I'm looking forward to more wind once I have the rest of the rivets replaced.
 
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Riversong505

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Flying Fish Mast: My father owned an AMF Alcort Flying Fish and it was one of the fastest monohull rigs I've ever had the pleasure of sailing.

He recently passed away, and we discovered a replacement Flying Fish mast stored in his enclosed car barn - located in El Paso, Tx. The sail track has separated from the mast (see attached pics), but as you can see, the fiberglass mast and attached hardware are in great condition.

This was the last OEM mast that was available when he bought it for his boat.

If you know of anyone who might be interested in an OEM AMF Alcort Flying Fish mast, please let me know (Matt@mattrixx.org or 505-470-7307).
 

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Fiddleski

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gruth said:
I am looking for a manual for the AMF Flying Fish.
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Does anyone out there in this forum have a FF with jibsail? I am looking to buy or have one made. I have seen some stock pix with jibs. I’m sure it would make it point better.
 
Wavedancer

Wavedancer

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That info is very general and may not apply to a Flying Fish.
Personally, I wouldn't mess with a good thing...
 
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LaLi

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Fiddleski said:
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That's not how it works.

Actually, that document is pretty good in describing how you can steer a sloop with the sails, and the fundamentals of jib sheeting. The theoretical side is very weak, though. The whole "jib is better than no jib" argument is downright absurd.

The jib (or foresail in general) is no "extra" sail in a real sloop rig. You can't leave it out without changing the sailing characteristics for the worse. Likewise, you can't add a random foresail to a properly-designed una rig (like that on a Flying Fish, presumably) without screwing up the whole thing. It would be no faster, and definitely not point any better (which the document doesn't even claim).

I have no personal experience with the Flying Fish, but the rig actually looks quite powerful, and something that was decades ahead of its time. Like Wavedancer said, don't mess with a good thing.

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meh182

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Hi all - following up on a previous question - does anyone have a Flying Fish manual? Thanks in advance!
 
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Johan

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Two years ago I bought a mystery boat for $100. I have recently discovered that the sail class emblem is the AMF Flying Fish. However, I'm not convinced that the boat is a Flying Fish. There is no HIN and no identification anywhere on the hull of the maker. I haven't found much online about the Flying Fish, but everything seems to suggest that the Flying Fish is a 14-foot boat, and mine is 15-feet. Also, my online search showed that the mast was fiberglass, but mine is aluminum. I'm attaching photos. I'm attaching photos (from before I started rehabbing the hull). Can anyone tell me if this is indeed a Flying Fish? If not, any idea what it might be? Thanks in advance!
 

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