As you may remember, I stumbled upon one about a year ago. I could go someday to see if it's still there (it appeared to be very abandoned), this time with a cameraStill holding out for any info on the elusive Graffiti version!

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As you may remember, I stumbled upon one about a year ago. I could go someday to see if it's still there (it appeared to be very abandoned), this time with a cameraStill holding out for any info on the elusive Graffiti version!
Congrats for this post!Nice thread!!
Does anyone have pictures with the hull decals or other details of the savannah edition?
I have one (I think!?) number 158149 and the ancients said she´s a savannah edition.
Some decals are gone and I intend to make new ones, recovering the original savannah visual. And the only that I´ve found, so far, is that inside the cockpit in the begening of this post.
Personally, I would be surprised if they sold many of them at all.They made 12. I wonder who has them and where they are...
Shouldn't be as that's a post-1983 PSE boat. But it's on the IYRU sticker visible in the first picture.Is that sail number imprinted into the deck?
The 1996 sails didn't have a button, but I have a '99 sail that has it, so it was introduced at some time between those years.no ILCA button but with the 3.8 new numbers patch so pre 2001 I think ?
Not a worry at all. I’m not sure how they get the serial number plates onto the boats. It’s recessed into the transom so perhaps they’re a stamped plate that goes into the mould when they’re built ?Sorry, I misunderstood the word "imprinted", and didn't look closely enough at the last picture
The 1996 sails didn't have a button, but I have a '99 sail that has it, so it was introduced at some time between those years.
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Yes, and remember that "class events" include all sailing that counts as "racing". Contrary to what many think, there are no different rules for different levels of racing.I understand the sails need to have the class button and laser patch on them to be ‘race legal’ for class events now?
YES. Not that only the most high-end Laser regattas have anything that could be called "measurement", nor that passing that doesn't mean that your boat is actually completely legal (another common misunderstanding), but HEY, at leastWith the changes and updates to the class rule book I’ve been trying to make sure everything I buy or do to the boat is within the rules so that if I ever get to go to a regatta it’ll pass measurement.
I already bought a cleat for this but probably won't install it... I basically hike with legs fairly straight, with the strap close to my toes, so if I need a tighter position, I just move the strap to the ankles, or even hike with legs crossed.on the bright side, a camcleat now being allowed in the toestrap line for adjustment feels like it’ll make a real difference to getting the feel right on the water.
That all makes a lot of sense. The pre-button sail is the least crisp of them so would be for bad days at club level only. My main concern with legacy kit isn’t so much that it’s not class legal but that the measurement at regattas relies on the experience of the measurers. With the class getting on for 50 years old there’s got to be all sorts of stuff that was original at some point and thus legal but wouldn’t look quite right to someone who hadn’t been technically involved in the class for a long time ?Yes, and remember that "class events" include all sailing that counts as "racing". Contrary to what many think, there are no different rules for different levels of racing.
That said, sails from the "buttonless" era have never ceased to be legal. Fortunately it's rather easy to tell them apart from more recent fakes.
YES. Not that only the most high-end Laser regattas have anything that could be called "measurement", nor that passing that doesn't mean that your boat is actually completely legal (another common misunderstanding), but HEY, at leastsomeone has read the class rules! And it's the principle that counts
I already bought a cleat for this but probably won't install it... I basically hike with legs fairly straight, with the strap close to my toes, so if I need a tighter position, I just move the strap to the ankles, or even hike with legs crossed.
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Being a wrap, presumably it could be undone with the gelcoat underneath relatively undamaged. I would guess that is what they did to ultimately sell them. Along with a different sail.Personally, I would be surprised if they sold many of them at all.
At £10,000, ten years ago, that is a huge premium on a full race spec Laser now, let alone then. I would imagine, if you wanted one like that, you could have got a vinyl wrap done much more cheaply than that!
And it is unlikely that either hull or sail would be class legal, so I don'tthink that a racer would have bought one. However, there is no accounting for taste and people's wallets, so it is possible that they sold them all.
The article here has a little more detail
Laser Sailboat - Marian Bantjes
Here are some more photos of the wrapping process. In the background, you can see another wrapped hull, so it looks as though at least 2 were made if not the full 12.