Pierson
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Hey everyone. Im hoping this thread gains some traction and people respond.
I am a high school sailer in New York and I just bought a mid 70s 470 sail number 510. Im not sure exactly what year its from but I'm thinking after 1973 but before 1980.
Does anyone know if there was a lot of 470 racing in New York back when the class was big? I only know of 2 470s in New York State.
While I have a good idea of what everything is for there are a few things which are a bit confusing. Can anyone point me in the right direction in the best way to rig this? Every boat from this era looks a little bit different and that's kind of why its difficult to pinpoint a year. I don't want to give it a complete overhaul but I would like to update some things. Just to make it work well and go as fast as possible.
What can you guys tell me about it?
Where do I cleat the jib halyard? There used to be a magic box on the mast but I don't see any where to cleat it on the mast. Was it led back somewhere?
On both tanks there is a harken 29mm block that lines up with the roller on the centerboard trunk but it is turned horizontally. It would make sense to put a cleat for the Cunningham there but the block is in the wrong orientation and it looks like there is a horn cleat on the mast for that. What is that block there for? How would the Cunningham be rigged as the boat is?
The boat needs spinnaker hardware but I have the spinnaker from this boat (its all purple) and a spin pole from another boat that would probably work. Did this boat originally have spinnaker rigging on it? Why would it be taken off and not replaced with new stuff? It looks to me like there are holes for where some spin hardware might have been.
The trapeze has been rigged with Murray ball and socket stuff. It feels cheap and the receiver (which I don't have) to go on the harness itself is 150$. To me this is an absurd price for something which isn't universal to all trapeze harnesses so I'm probably going to take it off and put standard stuff on like you would see on any c420 or Hobie or anything. Good plan or is the Murray stuff better? What was original to the boat?
The gooseneck goes into a track on the mast but there is nothing keeping it from falling out the bottom. Will it stay on the mast when the sails are up? There are a bunch of holes drilled in that area. If anyone responds I can send pictures.
In the pictures you might be able to see on the starboard side there is a block on the floor just behind the centerboard trunk. What does that do? Under the combing of the centerboard trunk there is a block hanging under 2 silver screws which you can see on the top of the centerboard trunk are these 2 blocks related? What do they do? it looks like it might work as a purchase for the downhaul for spin pole or maybe its part of the jib hallyard system?
Is the shoelace stitching on the gunwale original? I think it is based on other pictures I've seen.
There is a soft spot on the starboard side tank just behind the shroud chainplate. What is the best way to fix this?
As I peel back the layers of history of this boat its cool to see what each owners contribution was. Each modification dates its self. Various fittings have been taken off over the years( whether they were replaced or not) and I'm getting a better idea of what everything was there for.
Thank you all. I can send more pictures if needed
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I am a high school sailer in New York and I just bought a mid 70s 470 sail number 510. Im not sure exactly what year its from but I'm thinking after 1973 but before 1980.
Does anyone know if there was a lot of 470 racing in New York back when the class was big? I only know of 2 470s in New York State.
While I have a good idea of what everything is for there are a few things which are a bit confusing. Can anyone point me in the right direction in the best way to rig this? Every boat from this era looks a little bit different and that's kind of why its difficult to pinpoint a year. I don't want to give it a complete overhaul but I would like to update some things. Just to make it work well and go as fast as possible.
What can you guys tell me about it?
Where do I cleat the jib halyard? There used to be a magic box on the mast but I don't see any where to cleat it on the mast. Was it led back somewhere?
On both tanks there is a harken 29mm block that lines up with the roller on the centerboard trunk but it is turned horizontally. It would make sense to put a cleat for the Cunningham there but the block is in the wrong orientation and it looks like there is a horn cleat on the mast for that. What is that block there for? How would the Cunningham be rigged as the boat is?
The boat needs spinnaker hardware but I have the spinnaker from this boat (its all purple) and a spin pole from another boat that would probably work. Did this boat originally have spinnaker rigging on it? Why would it be taken off and not replaced with new stuff? It looks to me like there are holes for where some spin hardware might have been.
The trapeze has been rigged with Murray ball and socket stuff. It feels cheap and the receiver (which I don't have) to go on the harness itself is 150$. To me this is an absurd price for something which isn't universal to all trapeze harnesses so I'm probably going to take it off and put standard stuff on like you would see on any c420 or Hobie or anything. Good plan or is the Murray stuff better? What was original to the boat?
The gooseneck goes into a track on the mast but there is nothing keeping it from falling out the bottom. Will it stay on the mast when the sails are up? There are a bunch of holes drilled in that area. If anyone responds I can send pictures.
In the pictures you might be able to see on the starboard side there is a block on the floor just behind the centerboard trunk. What does that do? Under the combing of the centerboard trunk there is a block hanging under 2 silver screws which you can see on the top of the centerboard trunk are these 2 blocks related? What do they do? it looks like it might work as a purchase for the downhaul for spin pole or maybe its part of the jib hallyard system?
Is the shoelace stitching on the gunwale original? I think it is based on other pictures I've seen.
There is a soft spot on the starboard side tank just behind the shroud chainplate. What is the best way to fix this?
As I peel back the layers of history of this boat its cool to see what each owners contribution was. Each modification dates its self. Various fittings have been taken off over the years( whether they were replaced or not) and I'm getting a better idea of what everything was there for.
Thank you all. I can send more pictures if needed
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