Now if Global Sailing made the royalties that Performance Sailcraft Europe and North America had to pay a ridiculously high amount, both would possibly stop producing boats due to financial considerations. But hey then PSA would to supply the world their Lasers. A perfect and strategic solution.
Why the ILCA didn't purchase the rights from Bruce Kirby is absolutely beyond me. What you all should be calling for is the head of ILCA, at the very least that all positions of the ILCA are opened up every year for voting by members.
Think of the cost of your future boats in Europe and North America.
Think of the cost of your future boats in Europe and North America.
So are you saying this is what happened or is this a "theory". If fact then it would be an interesting aspect to the dispute and one which might help people form an opinion. If a theory or suspicion then we can all come up with untold numbers of outlandish ideas. Unfortunately, the lack of facts in the public domain is making people more susceptible to "theories" and I think it would help people make the best decision if more facts were made available. If question the factual aspect because you state "Now if ..." and the "if" makes me wonder.
As I understand it (from memory as stated in an earlier post in this thread by Tracy), the reason is that the ILCA could not afford it - and that can be a bit of a problem when buying things.
How is this likely to impact the cost of future boats ?
Without wanting to appear paranoid, as a new member to the forum whose first post is making a very clear statement of opinion in trying to persuade people to vote in "favour of LPE", maybe it would have been appropriate to provide some background to your involvement in the class (e.g. been sailing/building Lasers for long or just an observer, etc) ?
Ian
Why the ILCA didn't purchase the rights from Bruce Kirby is absolutely beyond me. What you all should be calling for is the head of ILCA, at the very least that all positions of the ILCA are opened up every year for voting by members.
10.3 There shall be an executed agreement between the ISAF Ltd., the Class/Owners
Association and where relevant the Trademark, Trade Name and the Copyright
Owner. This agreement shall include at a minimum the following matters:
(a) define, if any, the ownership of the Copyright, Trade Name and Trademark and
establish the rights granted and the responsibilities, obligations and restrictions
that apply to the use of such rights generally and among the parties to the
agreement;
(b) where a licensed builder system is to be adopted, establish the procedure for
granting licences and the control of the licensed builders.
ILCA, your silence is deafening...
Global Sailing...Sorry I should clarify. Rather then saying 'no involvement in the class' I should have said 'no involvement in making the class better' or 'no involvement other then just purchasing the Patents from Mr. Bruce Kirby' or 'no involvement other then making money from building boats'.
Fully agree with you Ian on both points.I would expect GS to really want the class to do well because the better the class does, the more money they will make. Of course companies are driven by profits not philanthropic motives, but ignoring the "extremes", more successful class=more boats=more profit.
But the strange question is, why have the ILCA failed to provide any additional information. They must have loads more details (because they could never have responsible proposed the changes based on just what they have published). So big outcry calling for more info and we are just ignored. And that must in itself prompt the question "who are the class officers answerable to ?" because it does not appear to be them membership.
Ian
Anybody read the 2011 handbook??
Would you be bothered if the rule change upon which the class website says we have until September 23 to cast a vote is already published as effective January 1, 2011??
If somebody made this up you wouldn't believe the story.
Anybody read the 2011 handbook??
Would you be bothered if the rule change upon which the class website says we have until September 23 to cast a vote is already published as effective January 1, 2011??
If somebody made this up you wouldn't believe the story.
Publication and explanations go with the act of admitting errors and asking for forgiveness and for making plans to correct errors and installation of policies to prevent future errors.
Silence is a tool for those who are strealthfully participating in fraud and deceit.
I wolud like to read a letter of the authorities ( Heini and/or Jeff ) to the Laserites in the next issue of the magazine Laser World.
In the June Sail magazine is a piece on the issue titled "Laser Fracas" (attached). The last paragraph says:
"ILCA officials declined to comment on record, saying the text on the class web site explains its position in full."
It looks like further information will not be forthcoming.
These guys spent $100,000 of Laser Class money on a lawsuit without getting the class members' opinion first. Now they want to ram their selection through with no discussion. I'm angry. They are behaving as dictators, but of course, they only have our good in mind and they love the class more than anyone else. Give me a break! People are going to vote with their feet.
What I don't understand is why some people want to direct their anger at ILCA.
Since ILCA is not priviliged to these contracts, they can do no more than speculate (as I'm doing here) on them.