Every once in a while someone with a Phantom stops by our forum. Everyone thought (I think) that they are no longer made. But they are! So if anyone stops by, we can direct them here for info and parts: http://www.j-pointmarine.com/index.htm
I think they should get a better sailmaker - those sails do not look so good. I also wonder why they changed the name.
I always pictured the Zuma as a wide-body Laserthe only thing that comes to me as for the pointer 12 is that it resembles a zuma with a larger cockpit. but i agree pointer wouldnt make a new mold. theyre too cheap,
Oh, I think they'll sell you Pointer parts, but those aren't the same as Phantom. For example, take a look at the rudder..., completely different...., no longer a proprietary design, now using off-the-shelf RWO head, bracket assembly, and tiller.Strange about not selling parts....I would assume that someday, some part on a Pointer 14 is going to break and they are going to have to sell their customers a replacement part. And since they are the same parts......Unusual business model!
Might be the old Howmar 12, but there seem to be a lot of differences.does anyone recognize what a Pointer 12 originally was - I don't recognize that hull.
Ok I'm new here, but I stumbled accross this thread looking for Phantom information. I bought a 1981 Phantom and I was curious. If any of you own a Phantom, was there some sort of spring mechanism to keep the rudder from floating up while under way? There is a hole in the rudder, but I'm not quite sure what it's for. Any suggestions would be great.
67Stang - thanks for the info.
My rudder doesn't stay down. I have to keep pushing it down with the tiller. Maybe I should tighten the tiller pivot bolt
Ok I'm new here, but I stumbled accross this thread looking for Phantom information. I bought a 1981 Phantom and I was curious. If any of you own a Phantom, was there some sort of spring mechanism to keep the rudder from floating up while under way? There is a hole in the rudder, but I'm not quite sure what it's for. Any suggestions would be great.
Baseman- You say that you can't see the pics? I'll attach some new ones from another tiller/rudder that I have. I don't think tightening the pivot bolt will solve the problem that you are having, it will just make kicking the rudder up stiffer. In the pic, you will see a "cam" tab on the tiller straps, that locks the rudder in down position. When lifting the tiller up and over, the "cam " stop, (forward) it pulls the rudder up and to another "cam" stop, holding it in up position. It takes the lifting of the tiller to go to and from postions. Is the "cam" worn out on your tiller straps?
If you still can't view the pics, I can e mail them to ya
Flash - you may want to contact J-point marine. They don't have parts listed online. Ig the pic of the new rudder in this thread is accurate, the rudder looks different but the bracket is the same.
I might have a sunfish rudder, but I have the Phantom bracket I tightendthe tiller bolt and things are working fine now.
...So, they were miss matched (Phantom hardware and a Sunfish rudder blade)?
The J-point marine rudder may look different, but the Gudgeon is still the same. The Jpoint rudder should work on older Phantoms.
Here are some pics of my rudder blade. I don't know if it's original (I'm at least the third owner of this boat)
Stang - I probably don't live very far from you. I would consider myself S. New Hamphire also.
The J-point marine rudder may look different, but the Gudgeon is still the same. The Jpoint rudder should work on older Phantoms.
Here are some pics of my rudder blade. I don't know if it's original (I'm at least the third owner of this boat)
On another note, one of the Scorpion spars is bent. Can they be straightened or is it history?
Every once in a while someone with a Phantom stops by our forum. Everyone thought (I think) that they are no longer made. But they are! So if anyone stops by, we can direct them here for info and parts: http://www.j-pointmarine.com/index.htm
I think they should get a better sailmaker - those sails do not look so good. I also wonder why they changed the name.
If you visit the Point Marine site, does anyone recognize what a Pointer 12 originally was - I don't recognize that hull. I doubt they built a new mold - I suspect that like the Phantom, they found an old mold and turned whatever the boat was into a Pointer 12.
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Yes, I think it is the old Howmar 12, there are some differences-but i think its the same boat.Might be the old Howmar 12, but there seem to be a lot of differences.
Pointer 12 reminds me of the old Holders, I think there was a 12? 14?Every once in a while someone with a Phantom stops by our forum. Everyone thought (I think) that they are no longer made. But they are! So if anyone stops by, we can direct them here for info and parts: http://www.j-pointmarine.com/index.htm
I think they should get a better sailmaker - those sails do not look so good. I also wonder why they changed the name.
If you visit the Point Marine site, does anyone recognize what a Pointer 12 originally was - I don't recognize that hull. I doubt they built a new mold - I suspect that like the Phantom, they found an old mold and turned whatever the boat was into a Pointer 12.
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