The ILCA is us.
There is no "their side."
It did, but has since been corrected!Whoa! did the font get smaller or do I really really need glasses?
Whoa! did the font get smaller or do I really really need glasses?
Nah...You are just getting really old!!!
Sorry for mis-phrasing... I used the term "their side" to mean the global ILCA system for allocating berths to the master's worlds, as opposed to "our side" meaning ILCA-NA region. In the end, the goal is to get as many of "us" into the available space in "our" event. And that is everyone's goal.
I wish that were true. The point of my post above was too well hidden...I think, most of those who whine about allocations think it is somebody else's fault when we have a small allocation.
I have no problem with the allocations, and I have no problem with Canadians being limited to the number of entries in their own country. But there are zero (0) spots allocated to Canada!!! WTF??? I realize that spots will open up if countries don't use up all of their allocations, but why the hell wouldn't the host nation have spots allocated the same as any other? Now those of us from Canada won't even have anything near a confirmed spot until after July 24 when the extra spots are allocated. This might be fine for the people in the eastern half of the country, but for those of us on the west coast it doesn't leave much flexibility for booking plane tickets and accomodations. It's just as far for me to come as sailors from the UK, Spain, Caribbean, Brazil, etc. so why do we get stuck waiting???
TonyB;52793It looks like the overall subscription will be under 400 and a decent number of those won't take up their entry when it comes time to actually pay up.[/QUOTE said:That's what I'm thinking. That 150 pounds sterling, whatever it works out to in US dolllars ($300 or so?), will literally make people put their money where their mouth is. That, and the charter deposit.
I don't know why ILCA chose to display it they way they did but in the initial allocation (remember, 350 available spots divided by some 85 countries with enough members to have at least one berth) the North American Region (Canada and the US) gets 35 spots. The entries are time ordered, so the first 35 between both countries are "in", the rest on both lists should all get in on the re-allocation rounds.
As I recall, within 48 hours of the opening of registration for Terrigal (there was no "application" period for that event) the entry limit had been reached with some 80% of the entries from Australia. At least this new system lets the rest of the world have a shot at entries before filling out the event with sailors from the host region!
Also, note that if the total limit of 350 is not reached before November 13 (the end of the "application" period) then, if I understand the system correctly, everyone on the application lists, regardless of country, is "in."
Finally, let's not forget that traditionally the host region has always been some 1/2 to 2/3 of the entries. So, have faith that if the entries go over the limit we'll still get a very large number of people into the event.
Having said all of this, if you want to go then please go through the "application for entry" process before November 13!
If I understand the qualifications correctly, the first 35 who meet the criteria are in.
My compliments to the North American Laser Class management for creating such a well thought out system....
Yeah right.
Basically, those 35 who registered earliest on the first day, regardless of their skills, get to fill North America's limited positions. .
The wonderful system set up for allocating North American's limited 35 places has a number of great features. Here are a few:
1. 35 year olds are not allowed to enter. Anyone who is 35 this year cannot possibly get a spot as previous Masters racing experience is a criteria.
2. Our champions are being given no special consideration. The following sailors have applied but are not among the first 35 North American Registrants and, despite their credentials, may not be given a space for the 2009 event.
Past World Champions: Doug Peckover, Peter Seidenberg, Mark Bear, Henry De Wolfe,
Recent North American Champions division or overall:
Peckover, Bear, De Wolfe, Bear, Eric Faust, Fred Schroth, Scott Young, Chris Raab, Alden Shattuck
3. The registration "period" is a misleading name for a few minutes followed by a few weeks of essentially closed registration. There are over 160 almost certainly qualified applicants ahead of anyone who has not yet registered or who is waiting for his number from the ISAF ( I still have not received my ISAF confirmation but I did successfully browse their incoming database and find what my number will be when it is eventually issued or I still would not ahve been allowed to register my application)
Seriously. What sort of fruitcake logic allowed the NA Class "management" to set up a system where the current two time North American Chamnpion not only fails to receive an automatic berth but...unless he manages to be at a computer in the first two hours of the advertised two month long registration period, will not be invited to represent North America at the worlds?
I don't know what to make of posts like this... other than to be reminded of the immortal words from "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy": Don't Panic.
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Anyway, that is for the future. For this event I remain confident that everyone who has signed up to date will be registering in November.