Outhaul. Which system works better?
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Kratos
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I used the system with the purchase at the mast for the longest time, but when I switched having the purchase further back on the boom, the difference was amazing. Much better in my opinion.
Plus, a shorter primary = less outhaul adjustment caused by boom bend.
Plus, a shorter primary = less outhaul adjustment caused by boom bend.
Thanks for answer! And can you tell do you have a block attached to the clam cleat? Or you use less powerful outhaul?
Kratos
Member
Block attached to the cleat.
Thanks !!!
jeffers
Active Member
I find it depends on how strong you are. The second picture gives you additional purchase but will also result in more rope on the foredeck/in the cockpit.
I use the standard 4:1 (I think that is how is comes out) and I do not have any loops around the boom as I find they have a tendancy to tighten at the wrong moments meaning you cannot adjust the outhaul if you need to.
This combined with a fairly heavy shock-cord inhaul works well for me but I am on the large side for a Laser sailor (6'1" and 185lb/85kg).
My advice would be try the cheaper system (ie the one with less blocks) to start with but make sure you have enough rope to switch it to the other way if you need to. Then once you are happy trim the ropes down and seal them off.
I use the standard 4:1 (I think that is how is comes out) and I do not have any loops around the boom as I find they have a tendancy to tighten at the wrong moments meaning you cannot adjust the outhaul if you need to.
This combined with a fairly heavy shock-cord inhaul works well for me but I am on the large side for a Laser sailor (6'1" and 185lb/85kg).
My advice would be try the cheaper system (ie the one with less blocks) to start with but make sure you have enough rope to switch it to the other way if you need to. Then once you are happy trim the ropes down and seal them off.
Kratos
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Jeffers,
If I remember correctly, as long as you make sure you don't have a ton of extra line to start with, that shouldn't be an issue. I have only enough to make a barely hand sized bowline, and even when I have my outhaul as tight as I would ever want it, the line doesn't even come close to reaching my cockpit.
And, you're pretty close to perfect size for a Laser, assuming you have your light wind abilities down pat.
jeffers
Active Member
Hi Shatty,
I sail inland on a small gravel pit so I find I lose out a lot to the guys who are around the 70-75 kg mark. In the very light or the very windy I usually beat them (in the medium stuff too as well but if they get planing I don't stand a chance). For sea sailing I am about right (although I think Ainslie was only 80 when he sailed one in the Olympics).
This is why i have the 8.1, most of them cannot handle a sail that size in any wind, that and a lot of our racing is Handicap so i need to get an advantage somehow!
As for you comments on the line length I do agree but even using the setup I have I do occasioanlly find the tail of the outhaul is long enough to cause issues with the mainsheet block...
Kratos
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Look in the Laser manual.
People always link it on here.
The line lengths they suggest always seem to be too long, though.
People always link it on here.
The line lengths they suggest always seem to be too long, though.
jeffers
Active Member
My rule of thumb is a stretched handspan for max loose (around 7 inches or so) and a clenched fist for max on (around 3-4 inches), anything less and the sail is way too flat!
Dear Jeff! I'm from Ukraine and it is really difficult to understand what you mean can you tell this with other other words?! Thanks a lot!!!
LooserLu
LooserLu
"jeffers" is refering about the distance "a" (view sketch in attachment below). 1 cm = 0,39 inch / 1 inch = 2,54 cm.
At TLF there is a longer Thread about detailed measures for the outhaul etc, done by "gouvernail" (~2006-2008??) and recommend/corrected other master Laserites. I just cant't find it, sorry. Perhaps other may add the link to.
At TLF there is a longer Thread about detailed measures for the outhaul etc, done by "gouvernail" (~2006-2008??) and recommend/corrected other master Laserites. I just cant't find it, sorry. Perhaps other may add the link to.
