Hmmmm.....now another person has one of these for $65 and $10 shipping...I see this ad on Facebook Markeplace: Log into Facebook
$75 + S&H is a pretty good price as new Intensity Sunfish aftermarket sails usually sell for $125 - $150. Is this FB ad a scam?
Alan Glos
Dubious in Cazenovia, NY
** Seller now says yes, she will combine shipping. Meanwhile another seller is selling the same Intensity sail with window and sail tabs for even less- $65 and just $10 shipping. As Beldar points out with other seller, this one also has an apparent warehouse full of other items listed.SCAM. Saw the ads last week.
I messaged the seller three times asking if she would combine shipping if I bought three sails. I got the same canned response each time, but she never answered my question.
I bought this one just now….I have PayPal buyer protection on…. Let’s see what shows up. It now went down to $2 shipping .Now down to $55?? Now I KNOW it’s too good to be true!
Beware, fellow sailors!
so any result here?I bought this one just now….I have PayPal buyer protection on…. Let’s see what shows up. It now went down to $2 shipping .
if an intensity sail shows up, I’m calling to see if they had a bad run that they tossed in a dumpster or if they had a delivery truck that went missing somewhere. Crazy.
Wow, thanks for that thorough explanation, Chris. I will report these scammers whenever I see their ads, which is every day, unfortunately. I wish you had some recourse to this scam. It’s hard enough to keep a business afloat these days.ouch... that sucks!
Hello - I’m outraged on your behalf! I placed an order for one of these, never expecting to receive anything, and hoping to figure out and expose the perpetrators. My order was ultimately cancelled by Facebook Marketplace, with a reason of “Seller failed to ship in a timely fashion”. This allowed me to submit a response that was copied to the “seller”. I don’t know that it had any impact, but in my response, I noted all the various sellers that appeared to be a part of this, and implied that sailors were outraged and actively looking for sellers to report.My name is Chris McLellan and I am the owner of Sunfish Direct. I have lost thousands of dollars over the past couple of weeks due to this scam.
The ones getting scammed here are actually retailers like SunfishDirect.com, Intensity Sails, etc. and the customer is getting a great deal.
Here is what's happening.
1) A Customer purchases one of these items on FB Marketplace.
2) The seller on FB Marketplace then places an order for the same item with SFD, Intensity, etc. using a stolen credit card and having the item dropped shipped to their FB Marketplace customer.
3) SFD, Intensity, etc. ships the item to the drop ship customer.
4) The customer receives their items and think all is well (because it is for them).
5) Whoever's credit card info was stolen files a chargeback claim which they win as they should.
6) SFD, Intensity, etc is now out the item they shipped and the monies paid for said item.
The end result is as follows.
1) The customer gets what they paid for and is happy
2) The FB Marketplace seller has their money from the customer and paid zero dollars for the items shipped (100%) profit and are very happy.
3) SFD, Intensity, etc. is out the item they shipped and out the money originally paid for the item because of the chargeback case.
So while this is not a scam to the end customer, who is getting a great deal on their desired item, they are unknowingly part of a scam. SFD, Intensity, etc is who actually is being scammed.
See below response to the owner of Sunfish Direct.so any result here?
This is good to know. A sticky post should be made to inform everyone.My name is Chris McLellan and I am the owner of Sunfish Direct. I have lost thousands of dollars over the past couple of weeks due to this scam.
The ones getting scammed here are actually retailers like SunfishDirect.com, Intensity Sails, etc. and the customer is getting a great deal.
Here is what's happening.
1) A Customer purchases one of these items on FB Marketplace.
2) The seller on FB Marketplace then places an order for the same item with SFD, Intensity, etc. using a stolen credit card and having the item dropped shipped to their FB Marketplace customer.
3) SFD, Intensity, etc. ships the item to the drop ship customer.
4) The customer receives their items and think all is well (because it is for them).
5) Whoever's credit card info was stolen files a chargeback claim which they win as they should.
6) SFD, Intensity, etc is now out the item they shipped and the monies paid for said item.
The end result is as follows.
1) The customer gets what they paid for and is happy
2) The FB Marketplace seller has their money from the customer and paid zero dollars for the items shipped (100%) profit and are very happy.
3) SFD, Intensity, etc. is out the item they shipped and out the money originally paid for the item because of the chargeback case.
So while this is not a scam to the end customer, who is getting a great deal on their desired item, they are unknowingly part of a scam. SFD, Intensity, etc is who actually is being scammed.
My name is Chris McLellan and I am the owner of Sunfish Direct. I have lost thousands of dollars over the past couple of weeks due to this scam.
The ones getting scammed here are actually retailers like SunfishDirect.com, Intensity Sails, etc. and the customer is getting a great deal.
Here is what's happening.
1) A Customer purchases one of these items on FB Marketplace.
2) The seller on FB Marketplace then places an order for the same item with SFD, Intensity, etc. using a stolen credit card and having the item dropped shipped to their FB Marketplace customer.
3) SFD, Intensity, etc. ships the item to the drop ship customer.
4) The customer receives their items and think all is well (because it is for them).
5) Whoever's credit card info was stolen files a chargeback claim which they win as they should.
6) SFD, Intensity, etc is now out the item they shipped and the monies paid for said item.
The end result is as follows.
1) The customer gets what they paid for and is happy
2) The FB Marketplace seller has their money from the customer and paid zero dollars for the items shipped (100%) profit and are very happy.
3) SFD, Intensity, etc. is out the item they shipped and out the money originally paid for the item because of the chargeback case.
So while this is not a scam to the end customer, who is getting a great deal on their desired item, they are unknowingly part of a scam. SFD, Intensity, etc is who actually is being scammed.
So while this is not a scam to the end customer, who is getting a great deal on their desired item, they are unknowingly part of a scam. SFD, Intensity, etc is who actually is being scammed.