I can't post pictures now from my phone, but I spent all morning cleaning her up... Later today I will.
It has some issues but I'm definitely going enojy this boat, there's somethinf loose inside I think, weird since it has no portholes.
I'm puzzled about the age too...
Thanks for your reply
If this information is relevant, it points towards a Taiwanese Laser copy. One making its way to Galicia through a Seattle dealer is pretty far-fetched though.ADVENTURE YACHTS INC
City: SEATTLE
In Business: 4/8/1985
Out of Business: 5/4/2010
Type: Importers
Addtional Address: FACTORY: PRESIDENT MARINE LTD TAIWAN & SYMBOL YACHTS TAIWAN POC E-MAIL: PAT@ADVENTUREYACHTS.COM
Looks like the real thing close-up. Colour + general condition points towards the 1980s. The cockpit rails are obviously a later, homebuilt replacement. The lack of the normal identification features is strange; on a European-built boat of that period, there should be some markings under the bow eye, as well as a plate on the back wall of the cockpit. And nothing on the transom... I read the sticker as "AYI00852" backwards, but that wouldn't be any less cryptic. It could be a red herring anyway, having nothing to do with the origin and number of the hull.
What's on the sail? What do the control systems look like?
Thanks!Looks awesome! Plenty competitive.
Get a new (replica) sail, flip your top section and join your local fleet.
You'll have the time of your life!
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Least unlikely scenario: Adventure/Camet is a Laser dealer in Seattle, and gets their own code backwards on the transom on one of their boats (which was likely built in Canada). After many years, the boat ends up in Spain.Checking the "AYI" hull ID code against American manufacturers, I get this:
ADVENTURE YACHTS INC
Previous Company 1: CAMET INTERNATIONAL (OOB)
City: SEATTLE
You know what I think about this.Plenty competitive.
Get a new (replica) sail, flip your top section and join your local fleet.
The "Computer cut" text on the sail label points to the mid- or late 1980s. I believe that that type of cunningham eye was changed to the current one in 1985 or '86. There were no buttons yet at the time. The sail number might actually be 106952, which would make it a 1983 boat.
But then there's "Camet International", which brings us back to torrid's post:Least unlikely scenario: Adventure/Camet is a Laser dealer in Seattle, and gets their own code backwards on the transom on one of their boats (which was likely built in Canada). After many years, the boat ends up in Spain.
I would take the sticker off to see if there are more, possibly very subtle clues...
That's the question. Like torrid, I'm pretty sure no Lasers were ever built in Seattle. However, in 1983 Laser production was in a crisis after the bankruptcy of the original parent company. It's at least thinkable that this messed up the coding for some boats.If CAMET put their own code, where's the builder's?
Funny thing, I noticed just last week about the Masters Championship being there... and of course thinking, why not? It's only a 4000 km drive after allthis is Vigo, we always have good events. Galician regional championship will be here in october and the Euromasters as well (not that I'm planning on participating but...)
Yes, and this was one possibility that I had in mind, but not anymore after seeing the pictures. The Soviet version of the Laser was/is called the "Lutz", and in Soviet times they were built in Tallinn, Estonia. I have seen several live, and they're pretty easy to spot, mainly by their curved deck, different anti-skid texture and Harken-ish blocks.fake Lasers were being built in USSR / Russia at one stage
Funny thing, I noticed just last week about the Masters Championship being there... and of course thinking, why not? It's only a 4000 km drive after all
For the record, I don't think the AYI of the company I found from Seattle has anything to do with the AYI from the hull ID on Chuso's boat. However, Camet showing up in both places is a strange coincidence.
Thanks, but I think you should race it yourself! And if you don't have all legal/working parts by then, I can bring with me what you need, at a very good priceYou can use my boat...
A hammer should do it quite easilyI have no idea how am I going to get rid of the cunningham padeye that's epoxied to the deck.
Yes. But you can run both the cunningham and the outhaul lines through the fairlead! It would be a bit crowded there, though, as you have to have the mast retention line attached there as well.Would it be illegal to tie a couple of blocks to it and use it as a plate?
A hammer should do it quite easilySome gelcoat will probably come off, but that can always be filled in.
Yes. But you can run both the cunningham and the outhaul lines through the fairlead! It would be a bit crowded there, though, as you have to have the mast retention line attached there as well.
Excellent work! You can keep it inexpensive AND class legal when you pick up used gear! There's some great opportunities for that on the classifieds section here. Good thinking! You may hit a snag on the "little things" like daggerboard brakes, deck cleats and some of the other small parts that do not lend themselves well on the used item list. That's where you may need to check out the aftermarket parts just to get a part. Keep it up. You'll be on the water in no time.
Some of the details which we've discussed above point to a somewhat newer boat, but you might as well go with 106952 when that's all you've got. I thought of another (probably very weak) lead that I could follow; I'll post the results here if anything interesting surfaces.I still don't know which is the correct hull number...
I will need one eventually, because mine is illegal. Actually the head is the one on ILCA's website shown as an example of illegal.Some of the details which we've discussed above point to a somewhat newer boat, but you might as well go with 106952 when that's all you've got. I thought of another (probably very weak) lead that I could follow; I'll post the results here if anything interesting surfaces.
Do you need a rudder blade/head?
Do flip your top section before you go sailing, especially if the collar has two rivets. Flip it and use one rivet only.In a week or two I'll be sailing, I hope.