I would still like to know if the original contracts had a transfer clause before the rights were sold to NZ and then sold back again... I would guess that LP will argue that their contract became null and void. I remain impartial until more information is available....which again is why I never voted on the rule change...
I would still like to know if the original contracts had a transfer clause before the rights were sold to NZ and then sold back again... I would guess that LP will argue that their contract became null and void. I remain impartial until more information is available....which again is why I never voted on the rule change...
I would still like to know if the original contracts had a transfer clause before the rights were sold to NZ and then sold back again... I would guess that LP will argue that their contract became null and void. I remain impartial until more information is available....which again is why I never voted on the rule change...
* Will they give me my money back if the Torch can't be used at Laser regattas, the Laser and Torch never merge as a class, or the Torch class turns out to be nothing more than words on an internet link (no regattas)?
I am but a foolish old dude and I wonder...
* Is there a difference between the statement presented, "Laser class changing to Torch class," and the question "Laser class changing to Torch class?" and what exactly did they say and intend with such subtle nuanced language?
The link also says that "two new builders in the US and Europe have announced they are converting operations to produce the exact same boat under a new brand name the Torch."
Again, I wonder since nobody associated with the Torch brand seems to be answering phones or emails...
* Is anyone really making a Torch and where exactly can I buy one in US or Europe?
* How much would I have to pay for a Torch in Europe or US?
* Where can I race my Torch in US and Europe; could anyone give me a list of regattas?
* Is the Torch class recognized by any of sailings governing bodies?
Now while I doubt anyone is actually making and selling Torches in US or Europe - we sailors are maybe just pawns in this game the rich dudes are playing - I would very much like to be wrong. I believe it could be the best thing to happen to the Laser class (to have an affordable generic version like the Torch). But again, I wonder...
* Will they give me my money back if the Torch can't be used at Laser regattas, the Laser and Torch never merge as a class, or the Torch class turns out to be nothing more than words on an internet link (no regattas)?
* Will the Torch class welcome other affordable generic Lasers such as can be found in Eastern Europe to its regattas should they actually become a recognized class and actually hold regattas?
Just wondering...
Old Dude
I would be less concerned about the Laser I own because there is an existing functioning class and regattas. I would even not hesitate to buy a new Laser for the same reason. Its covered under class rules. ...
* Is there anyone making and selling Torches in US or Europe and if so see the Qs earlier posted.
I think Old Dude has some very valid points. Let's just say that the Laser organizations don't fall into the fold, and the Torch starts to build an independent network of fleets, regattas, etc.
Then what? Will I attend a regatta and have to register for the Torch Class or the Laser Class? I have a 2005 Laser/Torch. What happens when I want to upgrade? If they remain separate, I'll have to choose to buy a Torch or Laser? This has the potential to be a big mess! Kind of reminds me of the MC Class from the '80's to the '90's when Johnson Boat Works competed with Melges. The biggest difference was that we could all race together.
Will there be a rumble after the regattas of the sailors faithful to each respective class???
These are serious questions that we will need ponder in the upcoming months after a day of racing over our favorite cold beverage!
I for one have registered for my free Torch Class membership! I may even buy a t-shirt and wear it at my next Laser regatta!!!
I don't know where this rumor of a Torch builder in the US started, but the Torch website claims that the Torch builder for the Americas will be Torch Performance Sailcraft North America Inc. based in Midland, Ontario, Canada.
Yup, that looks like aLaser, I mean Torch factory
https://www.google.com/maps?q=&laye...=UZ6mUYPpIe7E4APpvYGoDw&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQxB0wAA
Yup, that looks like aLaser, I mean Torch factory
https://www.google.com/maps?q=&laye...=UZ6mUYPpIe7E4APpvYGoDw&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQxB0wAA
Yup, that looks like aLaser, I mean Torch factory
https://www.google.com/maps?q=&laye...=UZ6mUYPpIe7E4APpvYGoDw&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQxB0wAA
They need some cash to pay the lawyers.
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What is missing however, are replies from ICLA and ISAF. I thought that these were due June 14. It's possible that they filed on paper and the filings will take a day or 2 to show up on Pacer, or they decided that, as UK and Isle of Man companies, a Connecticut court can do nothing to affect them.