Well, the results speak for themselves i guess. Looks like you saved some greenbacks. I have a starter watch and two eyes so I know where I am on the course. Perhaps they're suffereing from Xbox syndrome, where life is not real unless viewed on an expensive screen?
A couple of guys at my club are showing up with these new fangled velositek, velocitek, whatever GPS thingys on their deck where the compass is usualy mounted. I say there is no way these things are legal.
You can plug in the poistion of the RC boat, pin position and the device has a count down and tells you your position from the line, (among many other things like course vmg and the like).
I was asked to buy one and I say no way. That thing has to be illegal!
Guys tells me they used them at MWE and no one said anything to them, (but they finished last and dead last so I imagine they could have run outboards and no one would have said anything to them).
Anyway I want to confirm my thinking that it is illegal to even have these mounted on the boat, turned on or not.
Thoughts?
Technically, a GPS is an electronic compass so this falls under rule 22.
Is a velocitek considered a GPS if all if does is track your speed, vmg, and do timing? I always thought of a GPS to be a navigational aid, to help you get from point to point, as in a car GPS.
Note: In the rules it says you are not allowed to use a digital compass.
No, rule 22 says "Electronic and digital compasses are prohibited," see page 37 of the 2008 rule book.
What about the S10 version, this one does not include a compass, so is it a GPS, and verboten?
http://www.velocitekspeed.com/products.php
I see page 37 where it says no digital compasses allowed, but it does not say anything about GPS's, or things that track speed, vmg, and a timer combined. So as usual one must assume it's illegal?
Is a velocitek considered a GPS if all if does is track your speed, vmg, and do timing? I always thought of a GPS to be a navigational aid, to help you get from point to point, as in a car GPS.
But you have to hook it up to a computer to see said tracks, you can't see them on the course while sailing.
Just saying.
I don't really consider it a REAL full fledged GPS, in the sense that a Garmin is a GPS.
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I see page 37 where it says no digital compasses allowed, but it does not say anything about GPS's, or things that track speed, vmg, and a timer combined. So as usual one must assume it's illegal?...
Ross you better make it a habit, to read the rules this way: If "it" is definitely permitted by the rules, " "it" is allowed to use". If "it" is 'not' definitely mentioned as allowd -> "it" is prohibited to use during a race.
That is how I currently read the rules. I figure it is better for me to ask the questions for everyone else's benefit, not only for my own. But if you guys don't want me to help and ask questions, and answer other peoples questions thats fine. I'll just post on my campaign thread, and leave you guys alone, let me know.
Is there something that ticks inside you saying that you have to have the last word, and win every argument?
Agreed, you do not need a fancy pants gps dohicky to sail a laser if you want one so bad sail yachts.I'd say the function that allows you to program the location of the starting line into the device and it tells you where you are in relation to the line is specifically GPS driven and there to fore and unfair cheater pants type of device!
Cheater or not this is the sort of technology that should be on the boat. If you can't afford the $250 you should move down to a sunfish.
The Laser needs
1) New sail
2)New Blocks
3)Electronics of our choice.
Cheater or not this is the sort of technology that should be on the boat. If you can't afford the $250 you should move down to a sunfish.
The Laser needs
1) New sail
2)New Blocks
3)Electronics of our choice.
6. New hull shape4. New carbon wing mast. (but thats just me..)
5. A boom that will accept a footed mainsail, so we can do away with these clew straps
4. New carbon wing mast. (but thats just me..)
5. A boom that will accept a footed mainsail, so we can do away with these clew straps
I could also think of some other minor rules changes I would like to make, most of which have been posted here, if your brave enough to look!
6. New hull shape
7. trapeze
But think of all the fuss it would raise you've seen what minor things people bring up that turn into four page long arguments think of all those new changes. It would turn the laser world upside down and shake it repeatedly.
You are all nuts - most I guess is tongue in cheek to take the mickey out of Ross B, it won't work! He is an American College Kid - they generally don't get Irony!