Sunray said:Hey,
I have not yet raced (although I am in the age class for masters), so I really would not know the pros and cons re: judges on the course, but I would like a link to that Masters website you mentioned. I am about to buy my first Laser and really get into it, so any and all info is good..
thanks,
Ray
Old Geezer said:There is a video available from ISAF
http://www.sailing.org/default.asp?ID=jeqFh??v&MenuID=o,7wGBt54yNTiJmRt1H3WyGOCagHAOLB,HPRcBprr5FjYIfLyLSur4Qcx1
I like this; a kind of ad hoc protest comittee. I hate protests and have often seen guys doing stuff that was obviously illegal and have not bothered because it was only a matter of one or two places that they gained. A DSQ would have have seemed a harsh penalty, not to mention the incredible hassle of going through the whole protest thing. The idea of the fleet collectively assessing a penalty of a point or two is a good one. It should be doable quickly and with little fuss. The whole process should take half an hour, tops.gouvernail said:2. The good sailors would post a notice or evenhave a meeting on shore telling the competitors what was seen and why each whistle was blkown. The sailors could then discuss the accuracy of the calls and the sailors could decide whether their infractions were sufficient for a penalty. A guy who didn't know he was cheating might volunytarily take a penalty appropriate to the offense. Thye don't even have to be stanbdard DSQ. The fleet ought to be able to give fair penalties suitable to the offense and impact on the game. "OK we all think you probably gained one boat by your cheating, nobody else was evern close. We will give you 2 points to put you behind the guy you passed and another point for not knowing the rules."
gouvernail said:My inclination is toward using good sailors ( until we have trained judges) to watch the fleet and make advisory calls.
1. On the water they might blow a whistle to say "We saw that." Perhaps it is unnecessary to say who they saw doing what. (Consider the over early flag and sound and how many times extra guys go back. If they really KNEW they were not over early they would not go back. So I say, "You were too damn close to the line for your own ability to judge your location and you should go back.) If a sailor believes he might be guilty, he should do the designated penalty.
2. The good sailors would post a notice or evenhave a meeting on shore telling the competitors what was seen and why each whistle was blkown. The sailors could then discuss the accuracy of the calls and the sailors could decide whether their infractions were sufficient for a penalty.
Old Geezer said:Body pumping? Make her run naked through the parking lot.
The possibilities are endless. Who needs judges?