No, it will stay "ICA". The IJCA is the ICA, but for the ISAF rules, it must stay ICA. If you look at any other class's ISAF rules it will be ICA.A.2 Is “ICA” from template? Will the final have “IJCA “ instead ?
I would agree that chain length could be 0. Trying to be simpler wherever possible.C 5.1(a) (2) “Anchor and chain” is different from the old “anchor with or without chain” . Is this the same as the old since the length of chain is not specified and could be 0 length?
Great catch, I will work on both of these. Thank you, thank youC.5.1(b) (1) needs to be reworded for clarity. The text reads :
… If the engine runs on petrol or propane, it shall carry at least 2 liters of petrol or 1kg …
If the motor is electric it must carry at least two batteries.
The text suggests the engine shall carry 2 liters or the electric motor shall carry at least two batteries but I think the rule intends those to be carried-on-board totals.
Another outboard motor question is suggested here by the “Closed” class rules. Should the quarter berth bunkboard modifications (like a spacer added to increase clearance) be allowed to permit the wider four-strokes to be stored underneath? Under-the-sill storage is less desirable for weight distribution, difficulty in securing, and more likely back injury.
Good, good - mooring lines are dock lines and belong in (b). They will be removed from (a)C.5.1 Optional
(a) and (b) Why are mooring lines in sec (a) and dock lines and fenders in sec (b).
(a) or (b) The lifting strap that most boats carry should be added somewhere as optional equipment
That's the way I always looked at it too, but the Equipment Rules of Sailing, Part 2, Definitions, G3, Sail Corners, see the illustration of the symmetrical spinnaker. ISAF goes with tack and clew.C.10.6 (Sorry -this next remark is close to nit picking)
(3) and (4) don't seen to apply to a symmetrical spinnaker gibed end to end. The terms in the J/24s case are in-use references, not specific parts. The parts are “clews” and “sheets”.
Hit me again on this one with a different reference. D.1.1 is a listing of the mandatory parts of the hull. Can't find the part to which you are referring.D.1.1
The descriptions of modifications for hoisting suffer from lack of names for the various parts. The vertical hatch is named but the rest of the hatch assembly parts are not. The old and new style sliding parts and the panel above the new style horizontal sliding part need standard names.
Not to be picky but while proof-reading I found a couple of words repeated: "on the on the". Might as well make Tim's hard work perfect:
C.2.2 CREW POSITIONING
(b) While seated on the deck, crew shall have the base of their spine on the
on the deck and inboard of the lifelines and the sheerplan at all times.
I also had a question as to WHY are we addressing max crew weight once again? This has been bashed around and voted on so many times and now it has been put down in writing and reads as an option for regatta organizers to alter our Class Rules. My challenge is at regattas where this is "tested" how possibly can that regatta be included as a qualifying event especially in a series. You should not include/acknowledge that regatta's finishes in my opinion. Testing this on the club level where it is contained locally is up to the fleet. We're having to address/self govern the "less than three as crew" in our local series. Same thing with eliminating the genoa and making it a "jib only" event. Don't open this can of worms and make it difficult for us fleet officers to administer our Class Rules!
This following rule reads as though it is allowed . . . no limitations on anything!
C.2.1 LIMITATIONS – There are no limitations on crew number, weight or substitution unless limitations are specified in event sailing instructions per RRS 87. See SECTION J for examples.
J.3 CREW LIMITATIONS This changes Class rule C.2.1
(a) The crew shall consist of not less than three persons.
(b) Total crew weight (in swim wear or underwear) shall not exceed 400kg.
(b) Total crew weight (in swim wear or underwear) shall not exceed 320kg.
C.7.1(b)
I suggest the word “may” instead of “shall” As worded it appears to make a verm job mandatory for older boats – even for ones that don't need it.
C.7.1(h)
In order to address the fact that most racing J/24s are launched via lifting strap attached to the bar between the aft keel bolts.,I suggest an additional section (h) in C7.1
Alternate 1
(h) To facilitate launching via hoist, the a notch wide enough for the lifting strap may be cut in the aft edge of the sea hood. A “U” bolt or similar guide may installed below the seahood to retain the lifting strap in the sea hood notch during hoists.
Alternate 2 (this allows an inspection port or notch with without “U” bolt to allow for the old, new and converted seahood configurations.)
(h) The Seahood and deck above the keel lifting strap attachment point may be modified to facilitate lifting strap hoist launching.
OK, went back to "with or without chain". It's more clear.C 5.1(a) (2) “Anchor and chain” is different from the old “anchor with or without chain” . Is this the same as the old since the length of chain is not specified and could be 0 length?
I don't think we will be going to notches in the seahood. However, I will make sure the inspection port in the seahood for lifting and lifting straps in general are covered.
Hit me again on this one with a different reference. D.1.1 is a listing of the mandatory parts of the hull. Can't find the part to which you are referring.
the optional 340KG limit motivation is understandable. However, I'm worried that it will be over used. I know it is hard to find 5 compatible crew with reasonable schedules to make the most events, but sailing that way, especially in breeze, is when the boat is the most fun.. I've sailed it with four and even three. not the same experience. Where a 340KG limit is the only way to get a good fleet together, well, who could be against that? But, if 340 became common, we would lose out on one of the things that makes the boat fun, coordinating a team of five (or so) to maximize the boat's performance.
Any GPS based instruments allowed in the foreseeable future? My tack tick race master died last night and the replacement options are much cheaper with the velocitek product....
Any GPS based instruments allowed in the foreseeable future? My tack tick race master died last night and the replacement options are much cheaper with the velocitek product....
Sorry Tim, I hadn't read it all until now. That's good news. The only proposed change that I don't like is the forestay turnbuckle. Not sure why I don't like it but I don't feel like going to get a new forestay next year to keep up with the jones.