thirdly, can you attach blocks to the eye strap in front of the mast, or do you have to use the plate that is shown in the class rules pix? legal or not, or is it just showing approved plates to replace the eyestrap.
thanks again for the 411
My vang is rigged without the very expensive new vang hardware. I just used the old hardware and a couple of bullet blocks. The setup is 6:1 and works really well.
Could you show a diagram of your vang setup?
Thanks
It's basically this setup, but with a bullet block instead of the bottom pin on the boom block, and another bullet block instead of the sleeve. Look at my photo above.
I have rerigged with Harken products, its just not the one in the the picture on the class rules pdf form. I plced 2 micro blocks on the eye strap behind the mast and run my downhaul and my outhaul thru these seperately. Then they run back to 2 different Harken cleats.
So my original questions was...
Does the Harken cleat HAVE to be the one pictured, because thats kind of what it reads, and as you guys have said, if it isnt written, then consider it illegal
Second , does my downhaul/outhaul cleat position have to be in an exact certain spot on the hull to be legal?
And, do I really have to have a plate on the hull to run the blocks for the DH/OH lines, or can I attach 2 blocks to the existing class legal eye strap. It seems silly that I would only be allowed to run a line thru the eye strap as Ross descibed in an earlier post if the class upgrade allows for 2 truning blocks there. Im not replacing the eye strap with a home made plate as another poster described, just adding blocks to an existing eye strap.
...what really matters in the end [is]
the loose nut on the tiller.
Im not saying I want to come into the Lser class and change everything, Im just saying that opening up a few things but keeping the essential(sails, hulls, mast, foils) the same probably wouldnt increase any ones ability to beat anybody else, it sure doesnt in the F18 class.
just my .02 Flame away!
Hey powergroove, are they Harken 16mm ball bearing blocks making up your vang? Have you tried that set up in heavy wind? I was under the impression that the loads in the vang can vary between 350-400kg max. At that load those little blocks would explode. The one at the boom end looks like a wire block which is fine.
Which reminds me... I need one of those.
The more you practice the faster you will be. Right Rossums?
It's basically this setup, but with a bullet block instead of the bottom pin on the boom block, and another bullet block instead of the sleeve. Look at my photo above.
Sailchris:
I was at my rigging shop today and was discussing your setup. Do you just use harken bullet blocks?
The shop said that that setup may not be legal, but as I read the rules the extra blocks are legal. Roster seems to think it is legal.
http://roostersailing.com/articles/Info_Sheet_4_Laser_Rigging.html
Comments?
And while I am at it, I use the old outhaul system - around the mast and through two thimbles. Can I now put two block where the thimbles are?
Whats the advantage?
Granted I will be ordering the base plate for the cleats, thats just nice, but to order the whole vang system to be legal is what Im having aproblem with. Someone slap me and tell me Im not making any sense....
Your vang system is not allowed under the rules. And what I don't understand is why you went to the trouble of designing your own non-standard vang system (and making more rivet holes in the mast to attach it) when your old vang blocks plus a couple of micro blocks would have been perfectly legal.
Would the 2 holes make it illegal too?
class seems strong