Daggerboard dimensions

Discussion in 'Sunfish Talk' started by Philstr, Jun 5, 2010.

  1. Philstr

    Philstr New Member

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    Hi; I'm new to this forum and have a few questions about daggerboard dimensions. I just bought a sunfish and am missing the daggerboard. I'm making one per forum's specs but the specs do not tell you what the radius size of the leading and trailing edges are. I figured on 1/4" radius with a 6 1/2 degree angle for the 1 1/4 dimension. Also how much does the handle stick out from top of hole? What are the handle dimensions? What are the handle bolt sizes and spacing? What size is the radius in the handle?

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  2. Wayne

    Wayne Member Emeritus

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    Would you first please let us know which of the daggerboard designs you've chosen for your pattern.

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  3. Philstr

    Philstr New Member

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    The barrington shape.
     
  4. Wayne

    Wayne Member Emeritus

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    Thanks..., here you go.

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  5. Wayne

    Wayne Member Emeritus

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    Hmmmm... edit mode timed out :rolleyes:

    Try again...

    Thanks..., here you go.

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  6. Philstr

    Philstr New Member

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    So the handle is 1" tall by 7/8wide with a 5" radius? How high does the radius go?
    Your pic shows the 9 1/2 -8 1/2 taper side goes towards the bow. I thought the straight side did.

    Thx for the info
     
  7. CapeRomain

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    I'm thinking about asking a carpenter friend of mine to make a new daggerboard for my sunfish... Is there an advantage to any of the styles? My current daggerboard is the Barrington Style.
     
  8. Wavedancer

    Wavedancer Upside down? Staff Member

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    The racing style board will give the best performance. See Wayne's first post (or the Sunfish Bible) for a picture.
     
  9. CapeRomain

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    Part of the reason I'm planning on asking my carpenter friend to make a new one is i'm going to try and keep the original feel of my 1977 sunfish. Would it be better to have a new wooden one made in the same style as the old and get a second polymer daggerboard for racing? Any suggestions?
     
  10. Wayne

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    I would only replicate the composite or the Barrington no matter what year Sunfish I owned, except if I had a pre-'72 and wanted to retain the classic style. The "Shadow" style was ruled a poor design and superceded by the Barrington.


    That's what I'd do if you don't have budget constraints to pick up the composite board too.

    BTW, you can probably find a dealer who still has a Barrington board new.

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  11. CapeRomain

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    Sounds good Wayne, Thanks. As for finding a dealer, I'll have to look around to find one. Are there any databases of sunfish dealers?
     
  12. Wayne

    Wayne Member Emeritus

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    I'd personally just use a router and make a relief to my own liking rather than fool with being exact in duplicating the original. I switched to the composite and don't have a wood one to measuer, but eyeballing it I'd say 1/2 way up the 1" face.


    That's by the setup manual. We've debated the pros and cons (when no difinitive taper has been added) and some people like it the other way around. An original board is radiused on both edges..., no taper. The taper is an allowance in the racing rules and the owner adds it to their liking. Try it both ways before you taper one edge to be the trailing edge.

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  13. Wayne

    Wayne Member Emeritus

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    Just Google up Laser Performance (the Sunfish builder). They have a dealer finder.

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  14. Philstr

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    Okay so I have a roughed in shaped barrington style board. I'm thinking on modifying it to the race version. What size radius is the leading edge? The big radius is towards the front (bow)correct? The foil profile is thinnest at the front(bow) and gets thiucker towards the rear(aft)?
     
  15. Wayne

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    In section A-A you are back to 1/2 D (thickness), but in B-B you now have a true hydrodynamic foil with three converging radii, sides and nose. ... and the sides are really a complex changing radius over the distance. This would need to be plotted out from a centerline every 1/4" or so along the surface just to get a rough profile...

    note: A-A ends and B-B begins at the hull line.

    ...anyone have access to a coordinate measuring machine they can plot their blade with?

    Without getting sophisticated about a wing shape, I think it's best to just round the leading edge, leave the sides flat for 2/3rds of the blade, then do a straight taper of roughly 1/3 the thickness per side. You'd simply approximate the foil and your real gain would be the additional 4" of length (increased surface area).
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  16. Philstr

    Philstr New Member

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    Thx Wayne for all the info. I read somewhere that Interlux is prefered for the finish. Which one? Everything in the West Marine catalog says not for underwater use.
     
  17. Wayne

    Wayne Member Emeritus

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    Quality topside coatings work for trailered boats. The "below the waterline" precaution is aimed more toward boats that are moored all season.

    ...I wonder what moored boats paint their waterline stripe with? :rolleyes:
     
  18. Philstr

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    They paint the waterline stripe with Interlux Brightside.
     
  19. Wayne

    Wayne Member Emeritus

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    There you go, you're all set then.
     
  20. tsunshine

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    Is there any reason not to make the new racing style daggerboard out of wood?
     

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