I am thinking about the same - I have worn Deckbeaters in the Lightning a couple of years, they're great but you need some more solid support for the Laser. (So far, Ive been using old-style Magic Marine hikers for that.) Like other makers of hiking pads, Zhik isn't very specific about what to combine them with. Everybody else seems to pull a wetsuit on top of them. I guess I'll buy a pair, try them with the Deckbeaters, and if it doesn't work I'll get some wetsuit shorts to wear with them.