Wooden daggerboard and rudder?

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I am wondering if there were ever Lasers build, equipped with wooden daggerboard and/or rudder. Are there any other "old shool retro" features ?
 
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Rob B said:
I think they carried the wood blades up till 1978. Then they went to what we have today.
My oldest boat is 1488 and unfortunatly the previous owner lost the original rudder and has replaced it with a new glass one. The glass ones are faster stiffer maintenance free (relativly) and better for racing but I was hoping to have an original wood rudder.

If there is anyone with a wood rudder in reasonable shape I would would be willing to trade the glass one for it.
 
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Hi,

The wood boards were considered stiffer, and a bit stronger. For a while, the hot racers were trading their white boards for wooden ones, so the class eventually passed a rule against sailing with wood boards, unless your hull came equipped with them.

They do float better, so must be lighter, but they are hard to keep fair, as the grain swells a bit, but they are easily reglued and repaired. We also always painted the rudder white, so we could see if we had weeds :-0

The oldies also had S. Steel gudgeons, and the spars seemed to last forever, unless corroded. The plastic thru hull at the bailer was a weak item, that I don't miss at all. They had wooden tillers, and 24" hiking sticks, lol, totally unacceptable now, as were the plastic clams, traveler eyes, etc.

There were some very nice stuff hulls/decks though. I've seen some really nice '74's lately.

Al Russell 182797 and 4606
 

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Yup. The boat that I raced last fall had its original wooden blades! Also, the original radial sails had halyards. We had one of those, too.
 
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3335 said:
Yup. The boat that I raced last fall had its original wooden blades! Also, the original radial sails had halyards. We had one of those, too.
HALYARDS??? Do you have pictures?
 
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Markus said:
HALYARDS??? Do you have pictures?
I have such an old Radi-rigg&sail. It had a haleyard. I made it away and knot the top of the sail direct to the mast-ring-part that is needed for this old rigg. This ring came from "RWO". If I loose it, I get a problem, I guess...
The sail also has a pocket at the gooseneck area, to store the rope of haleyard. And on the gooseneck-fiiting of the lower mast, there is a special metal-pin (looks like a "L") for fixing the haleyard.
If the sail is knoted direct to the ring, it works good enough for recreational sailing. This sail and the lower mastpart are not conform to the actual measuring-diagramms, so racing with it only is allowed on club-races, if the others do not protest against me.
Because I only use it in heavy air, for recreational sailing, I´m happy to have it. A used Radi-rig here is not often sold on the market, expensive in relationship to their condition and they are "away" immediately. I post a pic (or 2) of this "grandfahtered" Radi-rig if desired.
LooserLu

P.S. There has been also a original buildersupplied Laser-Compass in the 70ties. Not comparable to the Silva´s ... Everytime I see this old-style-compass on an auction, I´m really amused how much the people spend for this piece...
I try to clear the question, if the wodden foils were also on the first Lasers, that where made Europe, but I never have seen here a Laser that had originally buildersupplied wooden foils here in GER/Europe.
 
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Hi,

I have a crispy white M rig that my Daughter uses in Heavy air, with a full spar, and an eye riveted to the top. We use the Tie it version that Lu mentions, but two feet of mast sticks out. She prefers a full sail, and at 125 lbs. had a first and second last night with the full, against a tough fleet, but in 7-8 knots. We have a radial spar, but have never bothered to use it.

I have one of the top eye devices that Lu shows in his pic, and never had a clue what it was for, lol. Maybe now I'll go rig the radial spar, full top and see how it looks. I'm sure it will flatten the sail better.

The ability to drop the sail is a great idea for a camp or beach boat. The kids can just beach it, drop/claw the sail down, and go to lunch.

Al Russell 182797
 
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LooserLu said:
Here are some pic´s of that Radial-Sail and about the old original buildersupplied Lasercompass:
Many thanks for posting these pictures. A laser with halyard was completely new to me. Your pictures were the key for understanding this. Knowing that your are from Germany to, I am asking you wether you know somebody who wants to sell wooden foils. Danke ...
 
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Markus said:
...Knowing that your are from Germany to, I am asking you wether you know somebody who wants to sell wooden foils. Danke ...
I have to look to my old email-archive. I guess, yes, there is somebody here in GER :)
When I have found something, I send you a "PM" via TLF.
Grüße
Ludwig
 
#18
I had an early version of the radial sail (circa 1983) which had a halyard. It had a "canvas" sleave which went over the top section and an eye sewn into it at right angles for the line to pass through. After a few attempts to use the correct and legal method of rigging I gave the halyard the flick and lashed the sail to the sleave. At least the sail did not slide down the mast due to the rope stretching. Rope technology was not like it is today.
 
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bedient@mac.com said:
Wood definately has a nice look. Here's a picture of my rebuilt '74.
Excellent boat, really nice work. Thats exactly how I want my foils look like. But ist kind of difficult to get them ... nobody wants to sell original ones!
 
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Markus said:
I am wondering if there were ever Lasers build, equipped with wooden daggerboard and/or rudder. Are there any other "old shool retro" features ?
Yes, most deffinitely yes. I still have my wooden daggerboard and rudder. Old School?? I'm still as bought in 1973. Want pictures??
 
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