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What are the changes to the shape at the top of mast as compared to the model 1.

entropy

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Are the model 1 mast tops the same as the model 2 etc...? How many mast designs were made, and what years,? I am interested in the actual mast form (ie model 1 is a tear drop shape when looking from above). I know the recent masts have the sheave pulley wrapped in a black plastic at the top, where model 1 is tucked inside near top of mast. Thank you.
 

boldham

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Hi, better late than never. Here are some pics of my mast (Mod3 1999). You can't really tell from the photo, but there is some kind of plug below the masthead sheave (pulley). In the birdseye view, you can see an eye strap on portside of mast. I'm not sure if factory installed. There's a line attached to it which I assume is for stepping the mast solo. At least that is what I use it for! I can temporarily tie it around front of trailer while I rig the furling.
Not sure if any of this is helpful, but happy to check anything else!
 

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boldham

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Can you help me out too? I just got this Laser 2 and this is what the top mast looks like. I can’t figure out what top/pulley system is missing. Any information would be helpful. Thanks!
Sorry, I don't know anything about that boat! Post in the laser forum (Laser Talk) and I'm sure someone can help. Best of luck.
 

LaLi

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Phouseal, looks like you didn't quite understand my post on the other thread. What you're pointing at in the picture above is NOT the top of a Laser 2 mast. It's the top of the bottom section only, and you're missing the entire top section. I don't have the exact measurements, but it's of the order of one and a half metre.

In the picture below, you can (barely) see the joint between the sections where the letter "R" is closest to the mast:

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As I said, your only realistic chance of obtaining one is buying a complete used mast, which may mean buying another complete boat.

Does the previous owner have any idea about this? Did he even sail the boat ever?

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entropy

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Hi, better late than never. Here are some pics of my mast (Mod3 1999). You can't really tell from the photo, but there is some kind of plug below the masthead sheave (pulley). In the birdseye view, you can see an eye strap on portside of mast. I'm not sure if factory installed. There's a line attached to it which I assume is for stepping the mast solo. At least that is what I use it for! I can temporarily tie it around front of trailer while I rig the furling.
Not sure if any of this is helpful, but happy to check anything else!
Thank you so much for taking the time to respond to my question. I am in the process of making some Hobie Cat "Baby Bob" brackets for the mast heads. Your model 3 looks identical to my model 1, so I am assuming the model 2 would also be the same.

If you could do me a favor...to accurately measure the inside width of mast head at the widest location (likely parallel to sheave pulley bolt). Also 90 degrees to that, inside aluminum diameter/ length from front/leading side to the sail guide, not crossing any aluminum barrier/chamber in the measurement...if that makes any sense, haha, sorry. Basically the measurement of the largest void in both directions. Thank you for your time.
 

boldham

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Thank you so much for taking the time to respond to my question. I am in the process of making some Hobie Cat "Baby Bob" brackets for the mast heads. Your model 3 looks identical to my model 1, so I am assuming the model 2 would also be the same.

If you could do me a favor...to accurately measure the inside width of mast head at the widest location (likely parallel to sheave pulley bolt). Also 90 degrees to that, inside aluminum diameter/ length from front/leading side to the sail guide, not crossing any aluminum barrier/chamber in the measurement...if that makes any sense, haha, sorry. Basically the measurement of the largest void in both directions. Thank you for your time.
so from widest part of my mast (inside, beam to beam) is 2 1/32".
outside is just under 2 7/32"
from fore to aft (excluding the groove for the sail) see pic below, I was just a hair over 2 1/8" on inside. (ignore the reading from photo as i was just trying to illustrate where i was measuring).
Hope that helps!
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Mashmaster

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Thank you so much for taking the time to respond to my question. I am in the process of making some Hobie Cat "Baby Bob" brackets for the mast heads. Your model 3 looks identical to my model 1, so I am assuming the model 2 would also be the same.

If you could do me a favor...to accurately measure the inside width of mast head at the widest location (likely parallel to sheave pulley bolt). Also 90 degrees to that, inside aluminum diameter/ length from front/leading side to the sail guide, not crossing any aluminum barrier/chamber in the measurement...if that makes any sense, haha, sorry. Basically the measurement of the largest void in both directions. Thank you for your time.
You are making more? I am still interested in one
 

entropy

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Thank you Boldham that was very helpful, thank goodness for calipers and helpful people. Thank you for taking the time to do that!

Mashmaster they are still moving forward just not as quickly as I had hoped, had a few hold-ups but they are looking great!. I will make a posting once I have a few ready, hopefully soon, thank you.
 
Boldham,
The eye strap you mentioned which is located on the port side of the mast may have been used for attaching a line to serve as a topping lift. My 2015 Mod 3 14.2K has a topping lift which dead ends on an eye strap on the port side of the mast near the top. The mast is a Selden spar with a closed top which contains the main sheet sheeves. The topping lift attaches to the boom on the port side, stern end, through a small Harken air block and is then led forward to a small cleat for adjustment. I keep the topping lift adjusted with just enough slack so that it does not have to be removed or adjusted while sailing, never have to worry about dropping the end of the boom into the cockpit and it does not interfere with the way the main sets when underway.
 

boldham

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Boldham,
The eye strap you mentioned which is located on the port side of the mast may have been used for attaching a line to serve as a topping lift. My 2015 Mod 3 14.2K has a topping lift which dead ends on an eye strap on the port side of the mast near the top. The mast is a Selden spar with a closed top which contains the main sheet sheeves. The topping lift attaches to the boom on the port side, stern end, through a small Harken air block and is then led forward to a small cleat for adjustment. I keep the topping lift adjusted with just enough slack so that it does not have to be removed or adjusted while sailing, never have to worry about dropping the end of the boom into the cockpit and it does not interfere with the way the main sets when underway.
Thanks for the information. Mine is 1999, well before the Selden spars were used, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't utilized for same purpose! The only block I have on the back of my boom is for the outhaul. But when I removed the line from that mast top eye strap, I recall that there was a brass snap clip on the other end; I bet it was a primitive version of your topping lift! In my case, I already bought a BoomKicker. Probably could have saved ~$100, but I do like the BoomKicker so I'll stick with it. Thanks again for the clarification!
 
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