Trailer vs Roof Rack

#21
Hmmm. Looks like the glass-filled plastic brackets that connect the dolly uprights to the axle tube may be taking dynamic (ie, impact) loads they were probably not designed for. I wonder about shortened dolly life.


Modifying standard trailers and making custom double trailers is cool if you like to tinker and have the background and tools to pull it off. However, I would like to interject some points about the Right-On Trailer. The Right-On Trailer is designed specifically as a single boat dolly trailer for the Laser and Sunfish. It can be loaded and strapped-down by a single person in less than 2 minutes. Take a look at video: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Right-On-Trailer-Co/10150130424075118 the woman loading the boat is 5’4”.
The trailer supports and protects the dolly. It has soft springs (300lb capacity vs. 850lb for a small utility trailer) and a strong frame to absorb road vibration. Then, the dolly rides on its pneumatic tires which also absorb vibration. Finally, the Right-On Trailer supports the dolly directly at the bow support which puts the load into the trailer and not the dolly. So in short, the Right-On Trailer was designed as a dolly trailer and will not cause premature failure of dolly components. However, as you state it is not a double and should only haul a single boat.

Thanks for allowing me to spout,
Mike
 
#24
Thanks VTgent49 for the pixm, thats what I was looking for.

Whut PowerGROOVY ain't telling ya is that I'm building the stacker fer free, and while I'm so sure we might both like one of those Trailex Stackers, But we're getting the 2x4 version until he "Busts Out Another Thousand" . . . .
:cool:Take that ya catsailing bonehed . . .:D
Cary
So many Boats, So little time . . .

(PS If ya read this, I'll have the Stacker finished Sunday and parked back in yer driveway.)
 
#25
Are you a big burly man? Will there be people to help you lower and raise the boat where you plan to sail? Do you have room for a trailer? Can you afford cost maintenance and registration?

If you are not a huge guy, must raise and lower the boat alone, have room to store a trailer, and can afford cost maintenance and registration, why not get the trailer?

I don't have a trailer so I must cartop every time. I don't think it so much of a pain that it would keep me from sailing, but I would sure love to save the effort at the end of the day. I predict leaving the boat on the car all week during the summer.

Food for thought: most single-handed FAQ's on the net describe methods of raising the boat. I have found far fewer methods to lower the boat slowly and safely and without it crashing to the pavement. A dolly is real asset because you can choose where to raise and lower.

Think ahead- it may save you a lot of future pain (and costly repairs).
it must suck where you live because in england we dont have to regester trailers and to save money you can even make your own like i have and mine was made out of scrap metal and you dont need to service them ever really apart from grease in the hubs and when they start rumbeling after about six years just get some more £60 for a pair what a bargin.
 
#27
My boat is wider than my rack. I haven't car topped it yet but intend to do so for a lengthy road trip. Has anyone got a pic they could show me of a car topped laser with launch trailer and masts all secured etc? I could do with some hints!:confused:
 
#28
We copied the set-up shown by MasterMike, with some improvements, where we made the box slightly higher which allowed us to included a locking box for all components, sails etc. See picture.

Young princess picked the colours and painted it to her liking. Works great.

But I would be eager to see some roof rack set-up pictures posted here, I think it would be great and offer some guidance. We have a roof rack system for skis (Thule) and would like to see how others are setting it up.

Let's go Laserforum members let's see some more shots!:D

Thanks!

GG
 

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#32
Here's mine. I've been all up and down the east coast like this.



And here's another one:



Also done it with a couple of Explorers over the years. Never had the nerve to try it with my GTO.

Note my load bars are spread out further than marginal's. My bars are about 40" apart. I purposely bought a wagon with a long roof rack so I can do this. This is probably more a personal preference than anything else. I have seen many people cartop with the load bars only a couple of feet apart.
 
#33
Wow , this is why I love this forum so much, you guys rock!;)

Millz, extremely helpful slideshow, fantastic, thanks for doing this.

Got the rack on the roof now, will test set-up next week-end, with all these pictures it will now be a breeze, seabreeze that is!:cool:

Fair winds,

GG
 
#34
Yeh, Millz's slideshow was especially useful and gave me a fewideas about how to car-top my boat singlehandedly. I will have to mount mine from the rear (ahem!), anyone have any good ideas about hwo I could do that on my own?
 
#35
I'm glad I could inspire.

I have read about a cartopping method from the rear of the car by lining up the boat and the car rear to rear and flipping the boat over its transom. I tried this and found it dangerous with my subaru. I think it would work best if you have a tall car/van. If you use this method you can also employ your hatchback door (if present) as a hydraulic lift assist system.
 
#36
I'm glad I could inspire.

I have read about a cartopping method from the rear of the car by lining up the boat and the car rear to rear and flipping the boat over its transom. I tried this and found it dangerous with my subaru. I think it would work best if you have a tall car/van. If you use this method you can also employ your hatchback door (if present) as a hydraulic lift assist system.
Oddly that's pretty much exactly what I had in mind in terms of doing it from the rear (ahem!). My biggest concern is the flipping procedure, can't envisage having the strength to do it unless it's done on the launching trolley.
 
#37
Question for Torrid,

I like your dolly main tube pads (at least they appear to be a pad?). Did you purchase the pads, or make them yourself?

MichFish
 
#38
Oddly that's pretty much exactly what I had in mind in terms of doing it from the rear (ahem!). My biggest concern is the flipping procedure, can't envisage having the strength to do it unless it's done on the launching trolley.
I imagine the ground would support much of the weight, especially since the stern is heavier side of the boat. Balance at the top could be a greater challenge because the transom is not square.
 

torrid

Just sailing
#39
Question for Torrid,

I like your dolly main tube pads (at least they appear to be a pad?). Did you purchase the pads, or make them yourself?

MichFish
I bought 'em from Seitech. You could probably get some foam pipe insulation at Home Depot and do the same. Or a wiggle-worm at Wally-World. I think that's basically what's underneath the fancy cloth covers.
 
#40
Here's mine. I've been all up and down the east coast like this.

Note my load bars are spread out further than marginal's. My bars are about 40" apart. I purposely bought a wagon with a long roof rack so I can do this. This is probably more a personal preference than anything else. I have seen many people cartop with the load bars only a couple of feet apart.
What's the trick on securing the spars in this setup?
 
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