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SPY HALYARD TOP OF MAST

fnietoelgazi

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Does any one have a picture of how the halyards are suppose to be organized on the top of the mast.

I tried rearranging in my boat but cant figure it out. If i pass the spy halyard through the top holes i think the friction will end up breaking the line.

Here is a pic of what I'm talking about.

Thanks

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VinceH

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That's different from the original 1978 mast I had, and different from the 2005 new mast I had. By 2005, masts were made with one sheave below the headstay for the headsail, and one above the headstay for the spinnaker. I can't tell what's behind that fabricated stainless piece that's held by the headstay clevis pin. That's an odd fitting. I don't understand its purpose, and I've never seen one of those before. What do you see when you take it off? Are you sure it's needed?

Maybe show this to some riggers or show it on a more general-purpose sailing site.
 

fnietoelgazi

New Member
Thanks Vince for your answer! This boat was owned by a French sailor that did a world tour by his own and changed many things. So its probably something made later. There is nothing behind it, that's why i have the spy halyard next to the gib one underneath the headstay, but I'm getting friction on the gib halyard and in the hooks of the gyb.
Ill show it in a more general purpose thanks!
 

VinceH

Member
Ok. It's a little unfortunate, it seems.

A spinnaker halyard always should exit above the headstay. Think about how it works...rotating from one side to the other when you gybe. Below the headstay it would chafe against the headstay or the jib halyard. Seems like a problem the way it is.
 

fnietoelgazi

New Member
Exactly that is why i climbed the mas to see what was happening. If you have any pictures from the original masts to see if maybe i can fix it it would be of much help.
Thanks
 

VinceH

Member
I'm sorry, I don't. I have lots of pictures, but not that one. I sold my boat 2 weeks ago after 25 years.
Maybe contact mast builder Charleston Spar an see if they can send you a photo. That part (area) of the mast is the hounds.
 

fnietoelgazi

New Member
Thanks a lot ProAtc it’s very helpful what is strange is that the mast has the same form as yours but it’s divided where it should have the exit of the spy haly in yours it has a Litle wheel.
 

ProATC

Active Member
In the photo, I actually mis-labeled the Jab Halyards, the #1(primary) should be right under the forestay, and #2 (secondary) is offset to port. The spinnaker halyard, forestay and Jib #1 should be all lined up one over the other. I can't tell by your one pic, but it looks like that is the way it is arranged on yours. I would also need to look at how smooth the sheet/halyard goes through the 2 openings for the spinnaker, looks like it would be smooth hoisting and rough dowsing. But, if it is smooth both ways, then you don't need a pulley/wheel. I think that plate is what is replacing the pulley/wheel. My mast is from 1980/California build, I cannot speak to any other masts from later (newer) production boats. If modified, who knows what that French guy was doing, maybe he needed another spinnaker halyard for his blooper, which would be super cool on a J :cool:.
 

fnietoelgazi

New Member
Thanks again. Wee i just uploaded more pics. The problem is that is not at all smooth from the inside in the plate that has the two holes on top of the forestay. I will propably have to remove that plate and get a wheel inside there.
 

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VinceH

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I like blopper! :) . Blooper was good enough. But blopper is even better.

Let's just say... I'm pretty sure nobody will arrest you.

I haven't seen a blopper in 35 years, and never on a J/24. They're not part of the allowable sails for one-design racing.
Here's a link to the class rule book. Class Rules Documents | International J/24 Class Association If you're interested in one-design racing, that's your bible and it details the allowable sails.

For PHRF or something else, I don't know.
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Photo: The legendary Running Tide flying a blooper, c. 1979 (with reflections)
 
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