Ross Bennett's Olympic Dream

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Rob B

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don't worry about my budget, you should not be concerned with how I spend my money

this is exactly why I worry about posting my life on places where people can comment, because I get people that pick it apart

Just trying to help you be realistic. It will go a long way in helping you get donations or support from your club if the budget makes sense.

Also, if folks are going to give you money they will want to see an aggressive schedule with you being on the water, in a Laser, at big events. That's what their dollars will be going toward. They are not paying for you to be a part time weekend warrior they will want to see you competing at a level that is consistant with winning an olympic berth or at least going aggressively in that direction.

If you post things you have to expect people to comment on it.

BTW. I'd budget for 2 new top sections. Especially if your other 2 are already bent.
 
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Ross B

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did you notice my big emergency fund?

And as I said before, I am a FULL TIME STUDENT TAKING SATURDAY CLASSES!
 

Merrily

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don't worry about my budget, you should not be concerned with how I spend my money

this is exactly why I worry about posting my life on places where people can comment, because I get people that pick it apart, I do this to keep track of what I've done, and so if people choose to do the same thing, they can compare notes, not for people to belittle me
Hi Ross,

Having met Rob B, I can positively assure you that he is not attempting to belittle you. His comments are meant as constructive criticism to help you be successful with your goal.
 
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Ross B

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I am sure he has good intentions. I have reasons for the decisions I make, and I do not want to have to defend myself every time I post something.
 

Rob B

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OK. Maybe I'm confused. I think you want to do an olympic campaign, but it looks like now is not the time for that since you have a heavy school schedule.

I guess it throws me a bit to see you post a decent sized budget, but you don't have time to sail because of the course load. I've been there and understand that. I'm guessing your plan is to hit it hard after you graduate.

You're keil trip alone is worthy of it's own blog spot. How about you focus on that and let us know how the organization of that trip comes along and of course the trip itself? That could be some really interesting stuff with everything that is involved in the events you will sail while you are there. I can imagine the rock stars you'll run into as well.
 
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Ross B

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Rob, if you don't like the way I do things, I think it's best you look the other way. This semester is rough on me because of my Saturday class, and next year this should be more normal, and after I graduate, I plan to spend all my time in Europe and Oceania. All of this has been covered before, and this is the last time it will be covered.

Merrily, this thread is obviously not going to work for some people, lets consider getting rid of it.
 
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stop the press!

I have a question.

I see your budget for racing per year includes a new top section. Dunno about in the U.S., but here they come with a bright orange sticker that implies they are more likely to break or bend permanently when new, before they become work hardened.

Has any lab testing be done to prove how long it takes for a top section to reach optimum hardness and how long before either bending performance drops off or risk of breakage through being over brittle increases?

I'm sure, given that laser sailing is riddled with myth and legend that people will say, hell, just replace every year. But is it really necessary?

(Opportunity here for dyed in the wool laser defenders to argue how much ILCA need our cash and we should just buy buy buy regardless)

If you've ever tried to get your insurance company to pay out on broken spars and torn sails, you'll know they will argue both ways at once:

that new soft spars are dangerous because they break.

and old hard spars are dangerous because they break.

but your spar must be a bit old to reduce the chances of breakage, but on the other hand they give out new spars with new sails in an effort to avoid breakages.

laser say their spars will not usually break, but you should expect them to break, and they cannot be held responsible regardless of anything breaking ever.

:confused:
New spars are more likely to take on a permanent bend but they are not more liukely to break. Older spars might be stiffer but also more likely to break rather than bend.

Realize, we are talking about aluminum....The same stuff we use for airplane wings. The number of repetitions to which we subject Laser spars is negligible.
 
#28
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Coaching: $500
Ross, not "belittling you" just some constructive advise. Top end coaches are getting $750 to $1000 per day. Even basic coaches get $250+/- day ..You sure won't get much for $500 for entire season. If you want some budgeting ideas for a full-blown camapign (after yer out of school) check out some of the 470 campaigners websites at
http://www.470na.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=7 . Scott
 
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Ross B

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Yea I honestly had no idea with that one, as I will probably not be getting coaching for whole days/regattas. I will mostly just get coaching before regatta for tuning up, for an hour or two at a time. At my point, and at it being this early before 2012, and 2016, I don't find it necessary to go to every regatta with a coach, this will mostly likely change after college, especially in Europe
 
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New spars are more likely to take on a permanent bend but they are not more liukely to break. Older spars might be stiffer but also more likely to break rather than bend.

Realize, we are talking about aluminum....The same stuff we use for airplane wings. The number of repetitions to which we subject Laser spars is negligible.
Well now there's another element I left out. So the alloy we use for tops sections shouldn't break often, at all?

Many many anecdotal theories around everything in this game. That's why I'm waiting for someone to do their PhD in sport science on something like this.

Rob, if you don't like the way I do things, I think it's best you look the other way. This semester is rough on me because of my Saturday class, and next year this should be more normal, and after I graduate, I plan to spend all my time in Europe and Oceania. All of this has been covered before, and this is the last time it will be covered.

Merrily, this thread is obviously not going to work for some people, lets consider getting rid of it.
RossB, good on you for drawing the line but don't fight and run. Fight or flight. Just choose one. :D

We know about some of you physical limitations. We know about your schooling. Most of all we know you've decided to make a run at it. Good. You're likely to get heaps of shit on here and on your blog and in real life. In my bid just to reach the top of local racing I'm kicked down, pissed on, spat on, bad mouthed, misrepresented and mostly ignored. Understand now that what you are doing is the big league. When you come out the other side the person you'll be will reflect how you dealt with the situations that were thrown at you and the ones you got into yourself. Sailing is life. Carry a big stick, know when to use it and smile as much as you can.

“Never give in, never give in, never; never; never; never - in nothing, great or small, large or petty - never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense”

~ Winston Churchill
 

Rob B

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Jeez. Don't kill the thread. I thought I had some decent questions, but whatever. I'll be looking for the kiel stories. They should be good.
 
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Ross B

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Should I allow this free plug?? :D

It's Scott, he's cool in my book.

I'm in year 2 of college. If I get accepted to my college of choice to transfer next fall, I should only have 2 more years, 3 at the most.
 

Bradley

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Merrily, this thread is obviously not going to work for some people, lets consider getting rid of it.
Now you can't give up this easily Ross! If I had your will there wouldn't even be a TLF!! In the early days the nay-sayers out numbered the supporters of this new "web email forum stuff" by a landslide. In those days, the class and lasering was discussed on the mailing list not on the web. There was a lot of heated debate on here and on the list about where was the right place to talk. Now, more than 5 years down the road, we have more than 7000 registered members and the successful model has been used for other classes such as the Sunfish, Capri14, and 470. So my point is, don't give up, there will be though times but it will only make you stronger! I know I learned more during that first year of managing the ILCA-NA Forum that quickly became The (independent) Laser Forum than any other period.

Also, as a side note, the ILCA-NA mailing list was absorbed by TLF a few years ago and still runs at laser @ laserforum.org.
 
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Ross B

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Bradley You should see the comments I just received on my site, I opened up the comments for 20 minutes to see what would happen, and I can't even repeat here what was said, very childish, crude, and rude. There are obviously people that hate me, and the one thing I hate about forums/ internet is that people can stand behind a fake name and get away with anything.
 

Rob B

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Remember that start up football league a few years back, (maybe 10 years back?) called the XFL? There was this dude that came from no where and he was an awsome player. He ended up getting drafted to the big show in the NFL.

The name from his XFL jersey was, "He Hate Me". The guy inspired a lot of folks.

Anyway, I learned long ago not to post something I would not stand behind or freely admit was a mistake. You never know when you might run into someone! So, I'm easy to ID.

BTW, I'm cool w/the plug from Boathouse.
 
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Bradley You should see the comments I just received on my site, I opened up the comments for 20 minutes to see what would happen, and I can't even repeat here what was said, very childish, crude, and rude. There are obviously people that hate me, and the one thing I hate about forums/ internet is that people can stand behind a fake name and get away with anything.
Ross,

I don't think people hate you specifically. The internet is a great tool for people to hide behind - most would not say those things to your face. More than the internet, though, it is human nature. See, you have a plan, a goal - a very worthwhile goal. These folks probably don't - so, they make themselves seem more important than you (in their minds) by trashing on you.

A lot of people in this world are very insecure - and they all have internet access! (And, most of them can't spell or use the English language correctly - but that is another issue!)

Scott
 

Bradley

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hehe...The 470NA comment was an inside joke directed towards Scott/theboathouse and others "in the know". 470na.org is a member of the Sailing Forums Network....
 

torrid

Just sailing
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Merrily, this thread is obviously not going to work for some people, lets consider getting rid of it.
There are obviously people that hate me, and the one thing I hate about forums/ internet is that people can stand behind a fake name and get away with anything.
Ross, you openly choose post a lot of information about yourself both here and in your blog (something I wouldn't have the guts to do myself, hiding amongst the anonymity of the internet). By doing that, you must develop a thick skin to resist the comments of naysayers and trolls who are simply looking to get a reaction from you.

That being said, many of the comments offered in this thread were offered as constructive criticism. People were not passing judgement on you, so you shouldn't take it personally.

Don't start a thread like this if you are only going to ask to have it closed a day later.
 
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