Laughing_Jakal
New Member
Hyde or North.....gut instinct tells em you get what you pay for and a UK sail built at a loft vs Sri Lankan sweat shop will get the nod, but wanted to make sure I wasn't just biased.
Probly been discussed already but....Hyde or North
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sk8ingsailor
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bjmoose
Member
Personally, I find the sails made at the sweat shops to be faster. Not that I think your question is biased or anything ;-)
But seriously, if you type +hyde +north into the "search" function you'll get THREE FULL pages of listings of threads, at least half of which are dedicated to this topic.
Note that the oldest threads tend to be the ones most worth reading, and the newer ones, tend to be more like this one, with folks directing other folks to the search function.
But seriously, if you type +hyde +north into the "search" function you'll get THREE FULL pages of listings of threads, at least half of which are dedicated to this topic.
Note that the oldest threads tend to be the ones most worth reading, and the newer ones, tend to be more like this one, with folks directing other folks to the search function.
Merrily
Administrator
Hyde's website says that they moved their manufacturing facilities to Cebu, Phillipines in the year 2000. What makes their facility a loft and North's a sweatshop?
Laughing_Jakal
New Member
Oops...I thought the Hyde Sails were cut in the UK...I looked for a search function and didn't see it. Thanks for the info.
Merrily
Administrator
The Search function is on the blue bar above, under and just to the left of where it says Private Messages.
You can also go to the search tool directly at http://www.laserforum.org/search.php.
TheBoathouse
New Member
They are identical and both made in offshore countries. Believe it or not the condtions at the Sri-Lanka loft are pretty decent. Search the North Sails website for some history and pictures.
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Ross B
Guest
Scott, aren't they also both made from the same cloth?
49208
Tentmaker
No, Hyde uses cloth from Contender, North uses their own
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Ross B
Guest
I had heard once upon a time that both companies used the same cloth, any opinion Scott?
TheBoathouse
New Member
If you trace the actual source of the cloth I think you will find it does indeed come from the same place...I would also guess within 1-2 years North will no longer be supplying Laser sails. The only reason they started to is they were partners with Peter Johnstone in Sunfish Laser Inc that sold to Vanguard. I would imagine our new UK friends have a pretty tight relationship with Hyde....
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Ross B
Guest
Thank you Scott
49208
Tentmaker
The above info from The Boathouse about the source of the cloth is incorrect. North weaves their own cloth, Hyde buys cloth woven by Contender. (this is why the two sails "feel" different when people say the Hyde sail feel stiffer)
The weaving is done in different countries as well.
The weaving is done in different countries as well.
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Ross B
Guest
What do you say to that Scott?
TheBoathouse
New Member
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Ross B
Guest
I still want to believe that the cloth all comes from one single source, it helps me sleep better and beleive that the sails are in fact the same, the way the Laser model says they are.
But in reality, we're still probably living in a web of lies
But in reality, we're still probably living in a web of lies
Rob B
Well-Known Member
But in reality, we're still probably living in a web of lies[/QUOTE]
You're a step ahead of the game. I didn't figure this out until I was about 26.
You're a step ahead of the game. I didn't figure this out until I was about 26.
sailchris
Member
I find that the sails made by Sri Lankan sweat shops are slightly faster until I capsize...maybe it has something about all the dried sweat making the sails stiffer.
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Merrily
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We are not responsible for stinky sails, either.
SFBayLaser
Member
There are things worth losing sleep over... but I'm not sure the list should include the source of cloth for Laser sails...
49208 is correct... North produces its own cloth, Hyde gets its cloth from contender. Both manufacturers produce the cloth according to the specifications in the LCM, so it is the "same" within LCM tolerances.
However, Boathouse is not wrong either... I believe that Dimension Polyant produces the cloth for Radial sails, exclusively.
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