Outhaul Rigged on the Back of the Boom

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On a two to one purchase, for every 6 ins of clew movement you pull 1 ft of line into the cockpit. On a 4 to 1 its 6ins clew movement for 2 ft line. On a 8 to 1 its 6ins clew movement giving you 4 ft on line in the cockpit. Its how purchases work !! (ignore the fact that my maths is embarrassing)


Most people do not have time to stop and start tying fancy knots to tidy-up the line they have just pulled into the cockpit when tightening clew outhaul. Also, if you want to release it, you don't want to be messing around undoing some fancy knot you wasted time making when tightening the outhaul. When you need to tighten the outhaul, most people will pull on the line and leave that additional line taken in alone and ready to be released.


Who taught you to sail ?


Ian
I take offense to that.

OBVIOUSLY i wouldnt be making knots while im sailing. I'm talking about the stuff that's already extra to begin with. You know, what keeps your ouhaul from slipping though the entire purchase system so you're not stuck on the water with the sail 2 feet from the boom and your outhaul hanging from the end of your boom in the water.

I guess i was just thinking wrong when i was talking about the purchases. Thats why there was a question mark next to it. You know, one of these--> ? <-- I've been kind of mixed up in my reasoning lately, probably since because I'm in another country at the moment the only time I have to post stuff is when I'm not out touristing... At night. I feel like a real dips**t now.
 
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Ross B

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#22
Deimos I suggest you straighten up, you have no reason to be putting people down, if this continues I will contact Bradley
 
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Ross B

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#25
psssssssh, I'm telling ya the Colie system is the way to go

mine is slightly modified, the primary starts out by being tied around the boom, over the ear of the boom bail, instead of being tied on the thing, then throughthe clew strap, through the thing at the end of the boom and down the boom it goes inside the triangle of the boom vang, where the control lines goes through the 2 singles on the mast and the single w/becket on the boom.

the big kicker is my inhaul, which is hooked on the JC strap and then is led though the front boom bail, and then back and hooked on the boom cleat. it is my understanding that this is not legal, but I don't really care, because it should be, which brings me to my other point, iv you vote me to the NA Laser board, I will make it legal, and many other things legal!

 
#26
hi, (first post, after a lot of reading)

over here in H.K. alot of *us* use the method by viktor188924 (the one from the diagram, not the picture). however what we do is that we tie a bowline in the red line so that the loop goes around the boom and the tail then goes along the boom and down. we do this to keep it up and out of the way.
is it legal ?

kp
 
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Ross B

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#27
yea you can tie the block around the boom

I forgot to mention that my single w/becket is tied around the boom
 
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That's the system I use. To attach and disconnect the block at the gooseneck end of the boom, I have a short line with a knot tied in the end that is looped around the mast and sits above the gooseneck fitting. To attach the block, I double the line with the knot, push it throught hte becket and push the knot through the loop formed by the double line coming out of the becket. Then pull it tight. The knot locks the loop. Easy. I've tested it in stupid crazy wind speeds so all is good. Just makes riggin up etc that much faster. I don't have to remove the outhaul line or any of my sheet loops and positions everytime I de-rig. Everything stays where i had it last time.
 
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...mine is slightly modified, the primary starts out by being tied around the boom, over the ear of the boom bail, instead of being tied on the thing...

....iv you vote me to the NA Laser board, I will make it legal, and many other things legal!

hahaa yeah we've heard it all b4. so when you running??

hi, (first post, after a lot of reading)

over here in H.K. alot of *us* use the method by viktor188924 (the one from the diagram, not the picture). however what we do is that we tie a bowline in the red line so that the loop goes around the boom and the tail then goes along the boom and down. we do this to keep it up and out of the way.
is it legal ?

kp
oh yeah ive seen that too, the tying of the outhaul primary around the boom. do you do this so it doesn't interfere with the line going through the blue square thing by the clew? if no, why then?

That's the system I use. To attach and disconnect the block at the gooseneck end of the boom, I have a short line with a knot tied in the end that is looped around the mast and sits above the gooseneck fitting. To attach the block, I double the line with the knot, push it throught hte becket and push the knot through the loop formed by the double line coming out of the becket. Then pull it tight. The knot locks the loop. Easy. I've tested it in stupid crazy wind speeds so all is good. Just makes riggin up etc that much faster. I don't have to remove the outhaul line or any of my sheet loops and positions everytime I de-rig. Everything stays where i had it last time.
i cant really visualize this. do you leave the outhaul on the boom or...
 

Yellow

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#34
Hallo Viktor,

Your diagram is the 6:1 I also use. In my humble opinion a good compromise between purchase and miles of string. Rig it like that, tie a nice handle so that it stops at 'maximum out', another mark at the 'upwind in' point and go out and win some races.

Geluk, Andrew
 
#35
Does anyone know if you can replace the clew hook with a a clip, is it legal. I'm wandering because my clew hook came out yesterday in heavy winds and my boom came off and I'm concerned it will happen again, is there a way to prevent this besides pulling the out haul extremely tight?
 
#36
You can use a shackle to attach the outhaul to the clew (and then tie the clew to the boom with either spectra or a clew strap)


Although you may want to post a pic or two of your existing clew hook setup here, it could be the way it's setup that caused the disconnect...
 
#38
Ross,
The day you actually win any regatta or get to the olympics, you can start worrying about the weight in the end of the boom.
Stop worrying so much about your equipment and start training.
Your logic is flawed. Thats like saying don't worry about making your boat fast, you have to win a regatta first. As anyone can clearly see, boat equipment would have an effect on how well you do. Shouldn't you been out there training instead of posting? You might as well just stop reading, and trying to make your boat fast as you could be training.... NEWS FLASH. People don't want to sail in every free time they have, some might want to work on their boats as its another way to get them a bit faster.

**** storm re-launched.
 
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Ross B

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#39
hey ross B, could you post a pic of ur system at the clew, the diagram is good, im just alittle confused about some things still
I'll take a pic for you this weekend.

Please see my post here:

http://www.laserforum.org/showpost.php?p=48718&postcount=227

what the heck, I'll post it anyways..


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Title: Re: Ross Bennett's Olympic Path
Someone on The Laser Forum asked me to post some pics of my outhaul, so I took some pictures today before I went out for practice. Please excuse the quality as they are from my camera phone. The system is pretty basic, it's taken from the Colie Sails MOJO package. The only alteration I made was to lengthen the line that line that runs along the boom, so that the single with becket is inside the triangle formed by the mast, boom, and vang, as I want the control line to be as short as possible.



 
#40
Gawd Ross, only took a few months to get a shot of that ;)

So you're running the standard outhaul, just you have your outhaul line longer so its inside the vang triangle. Good Idea, I might have to do that.

The JC strap. Qu'est-ce? It looks like the standard velcro strap.

Oh also, what do you use for your traveler? The blue shit that comes stock these days SUCKS.

And Purolio- I would say abut %60-70 of the regatta is won off the water. I bought a new laser in December and it's STILL not how I like it after 5 months of tuning. Every little thing can make a difference. No matter if it the local beer can series or the olympics, every ounce helps.
 
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