New Sunfish

norcalsail

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I hear ya, I'd wanna get out there too... that "Manufacturer's Statement of Origin" was another piece of the puzzle, at least that came with the bike. For some reason I can't recall, I had to send that form to the vendor as well, it was a regular bureaucratic clusterf#%, LOL. Finally got it all worked out, funny how the bureaucrats wanna punish folks just trying to do the right thing and get the boat (or bike) registered. Reminds me of that old tune, can't remember who sang it but it went like this: "Red tape, killing you, killing me, red tape..." :confused:

P.S. Did your boat come packaged in a box or a crate of some sort? That's how my pit bike arrived... might wanna check for that statement if it did arrive in a box or crate, it'll be a PITA trying to get one from overseas, if you went through a U.S. vendor maybe that outfit will have a copy. :rolleyes:
Hey Ghost Rider, It came in a heavily structured cardboard box that the driver, my son in law and myself carried to the backyard. Not heavy but bulky. He had a Laser underneath-nice lookin boat. That "Red Tape" song was a punk tune from the early 80's- Circle Jerks, Wild in the Streets or maybe "Golden Shower Hits" I have it on CD somewhere believe it or not!
I still put on the old metal but rarely, rarely listen to punk-except Clash. When I was in Wisconsin a couple of weeks ago, I had decided not to bring any music. The quiet was wonderful. All I listened to were old foxtrot records on the Victrola my great grandparents bought back in the 1920's.
 

signal charlie

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#42
If that is not enough paperwork call the seller. If they can't help, let us know, we have a few contacts at LP HQ. I know for our trailers the seller provides a statement of origin (who built it and where), usually the key thing there is the VIN, which also tells who made it in the 12 digit code. They will also want to see whether you paid tax or not.

All new hulls from UK and China are Ice Blue now, per an email I got from the Chairman of LP Bill Crane. He also indicated that the specifications had been tightened so that the boats are more "one design" than they have ever been.

And yes there are new recreational sails coming from vendors other than North, part of an overall initiative to keep parts flowing to LP and dealers. Check out the LP website, most part prices have gone up as has the price of everything else in the world, but the recreational sails are down to $250 and the Race sail is $395! I think any new boat that can be bought for under $5000 is incredible, especially the best, most versatile and fun boat ever made :)

Cheers
Kent and Skipper
 
Thread starter #43
Thanks again to you Kent and Skipper, I have the West Coast Sailing invoice and there was a paper with Hull # , Batch# and a few other bits of information. Also got a new boat registration form from the DMV so I am going to get started on that. My guess is I will pay a "use tax" similar to a sales tax and in the end, I will be under $5,000 on the whole deal. Soonish, I would like to get one of those breathable covers I think you mentioned. I really appreciate the extra support!

Phil Nymark
 

Wavedancer

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#46
All new hulls from UK and China are Ice Blue now, per an email I got from the Chairman of LP Bill Crane. He also indicated that the specifications had been tightened so that the boats are more "one design" than they have ever been.

And yes there are new recreational sails coming from vendors other than North, part of an overall initiative to keep parts flowing to LP and dealers. Check out the LP website, most part prices have gone up as has the price of everything else in the world, but the recreational sails are down to $250 and the Race sail is $395! I think any new boat that can be bought for under $5000 is incredible, especially the best, most versatile and fun boat ever made :)

Cheers
Kent and Skipper
Very interesting thread this is!
APS still lists the 'race' sail for $535 (presumably North) as of 8/11/18, but the LP site has the sail for $395 (with an LP sticker at the tack; presumably not North), as Kent already pointed out.
Now there will be endless discussions among the racing crowd which racing sail is 'faster'.
 
Thread starter #47
Beautiful boat! The boom looks okay from the angles I see. And the sail is supposed to be pooled like that, it has extra draft cut into the foot, you will be pleased with how it sets out in a breeze. The older sails you are used to are pretty flat. The bottom edge (foot) is curved, not straight and there is some broadseaming to give the sail camber, like a wing. Keep the outhauls tight for heavier wind days and loose for light wind days. After a few sails you might adjust them a bit to suit you.

Here is a new Laser Performance Mai Tai sail we bought early this year, we were surprised when it showed up with an LP sticker on it vs North Sails.

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You boom is going to bend a bit, nature of the design.

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Tacking through the wind, boom straight, foot of sail puddled on the boom.

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Well none of the above matters because the Queen Kitty approves! Does the boat have a name yet?

And thank you for sharing pictures, first new boat we've seen in a long time.

Cheers
Kent and Skipper
 
Thread starter #48
Beautiful boat! The boom looks okay from the angles I see. And the sail is supposed to be pooled like that, it has extra draft cut into the foot, you will be pleased with how it sets out in a breeze. The older sails you are used to are pretty flat. The bottom edge (foot) is curved, not straight and there is some broadseaming to give the sail camber, like a wing. Keep the outhauls tight for heavier wind days and loose for light wind days. After a few sails you might adjust them a bit to suit you.

Here is a new Laser Performance Mai Tai sail we bought early this year, we were surprised when it showed up with an LP sticker on it vs North Sails.

View attachment 27507

You boom is going to bend a bit, nature of the design.

View attachment 27508

Tacking through the wind, boom straight, foot of sail puddled on the boom.

View attachment 27509

Well none of the above matters because the Queen Kitty approves! Does the boat have a name yet?

And thank you for sharing pictures, first new boat we've seen in a long time.

Cheers
Kent and Skipper
 
Thread starter #49
I have been re-reading all the info on this thread as I can't remember all the advice the first time. Thanks to all for your knowledge...
 
Thread starter #50
Beautiful boat! The boom looks okay from the angles I see. And the sail is supposed to be pooled like that, it has extra draft cut into the foot, you will be pleased with how it sets out in a breeze. The older sails you are used to are pretty flat. The bottom edge (foot) is curved, not straight and there is some broadseaming to give the sail camber, like a wing. Keep the outhauls tight for heavier wind days and loose for light wind days. After a few sails you might adjust them a bit to suit you.

Here is a new Laser Performance Mai Tai sail we bought early this year, we were surprised when it showed up with an LP sticker on it vs North Sails.

View attachment 27507

You boom is going to bend a bit, nature of the design.

View attachment 27508

Tacking through the wind, boom straight, foot of sail puddled on the boom.

View attachment 27509

Well none of the above matters because the Queen Kitty approves! Does the boat have a name yet?

And thank you for sharing pictures, first new boat we've seen in a long time.

Cheers
Kent and Skipper
That extra curl of sail at the lower boom is what I was wondering about. Looks great on your boat and now I understand how it works... Thanks!
 
Thread starter #51
Very nice! To add to what Kent said, if you look at the middle of the three pictures he posted, you’ll see the boom bends when you sheet in. The curve in the bottom of the sail is designed to roughly match the curve in the boom sheeted it. As Kent said, Sunfish sails over the past 20 years or so are cut to “pool” as the bottom.

The top spar should be tied so the outhaul is snug.

I’d start with the outhaul tied so the sail comes to about 4 inches from the end of the boom. As Kent says, if it gets really windy you can tighten it to flatten the sail. Racers have the outhauls set up to be adjustable “on the fly” but that isn’t needed for recreational sailing.
Thank you Chris. I have been re reading the posts - takes me a few times to absorb the info!
 
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