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Dr._Loser

From 3# World
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Dear Mr. Michael950:
You are very funny !!!!:):):):)


Could you be so kind as to helping us to find out when the authorities will take care of South America Laser Problem ????

Horizon is helping us.............do not misunderstand.........

You know, yesterday Agu-05; I wrote to Mr Jeff Martin and I am waiting his answer..

......Do you know who is Mr. Jeff Martin ???

All the best for you, Mr. Michael950
Dr. Loser

Really, You are very funny !!!!:):):):):):):):):)

....please help us.
 

Michael950

New Member
Unfortately, I have no clue what is going on. The large blue multi sized multi colored font with emoticons just make my eyes burn. A Drew Berrymore firestarter / xmen cyclopse inferno. My sincerest apologies. Good luck with your quest Doc. Cheers, 950
 

Dr._Loser

From 3# World
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Dear Rob B:
This is the text I have sent to Mr. Jeff Martin:


"Dear Mr. Jeff Martin:

I have recieved the notice that in next OCTOBER 2008 will take place ILCA World Council for Regional Presidents Meeting in London.

Is it possible to include SOUTH AMERICA TOPIC in the agenda ???

You know that we are in big problems, and we need your help.

Best regards "


If I get some answer, I'll send it to you.

Like we say in ARG:
"Chau Chabon"

Chau=bye bye
Chabon= guy

Dr Loser
 

Murphs

New Member
One second to change the website, by the webmaster who probably has nothing to do with the World Council.

That process probably took a few months behind the scenes.

Also remember, these people probably do have lives outside of the Laser Class and not all of them are in paid positions.

BIG FONT
 

Dr._Loser

From 3# World
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Dear Murphs:

You have forgotten something.

If I ask something in T.L.F. and I do not have any answer,
so I write to Mr. Jeff Martin and he do not answer to me.

The Central & South America Vice Chairman,
Mr. Carlos Palombo writes to Mr Jeff Martin and he dosen´t answer to him.

What do you think about the answer delay ???


Murphs, Wake up to reality!!!!!


...but when I posted the Hini's comic pic, WAS A SCANDAL !!!
Mr. Jeff Martin wrote me IN A SECOND !!!!!!!!!


Best regards
"Big Font" Loser :):):)...............very funny !!!!!
 

Dr._Loser

From 3# World
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Dear Hini and Jeff::D:D:D

I do not want to riot any more, the games have just begun !!!!
So enjoy them !!!!!!!

(I do not know why I write you if you both do not read this forum.....)


Without any doubt, this will be the last Olimpic Game where you find a Laser sailor from South America !!!

..........and this is on your merits !!!!
.........GREAT MANAGING !!!!

These are "THE LAST THREE OLIMPICS SUDAKASIN THE O.G."

Julio Alsogaray
ARGENTINA
http://www.julioalsogaray.com.ar/

Alejandro Foglia
URUGUAY
www.alejandrofoglia.com

Matias del Solar
CHILE
http://www.matiasdelsolar.com/matiasdelsolar/Home.html


Please do not forget:

1º)
Inform or notify to Mr. Miguel Aguerre (URU) that he is the new Central & South America Vice Chairman. !!!!!
He is living in a farm without telephon nor internet, since two years from now.............

2º)
Give my congratulations to the ILCA's webmaster !!!.........COOL MAN !!!!!!!:):):):):):):)

"Big & colored Font" Loser
 

Dr._Loser

From 3# World
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Some people is asking me:
And what about Brazil ????

We do not know a lot about it, but I was "Googleing" and I have found something.
..........but do not worry about it, this is the last Laser Olimpic Game with brasilian sailors too.


Bruno Fontes
http://www.brunofontes.com/Pages/Default.aspx

Robert Scheidt when sailed Laser Class.
http://www.geocities.com/drloser25/Robertsailing.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/drloser25/Robert1.jpg

But this is WRONG !!!!
Scheidt is a germanic or scandinavian surname, he is not a brazilian guy......

http://www.robertscheidt.com.br/


And if you want to buy a Laser Boat in Brazil, do not do it !!!!!
.....is much better pay u$s 5.800.- in USA !!!!!!

BoatSpeed Brazil:
In Brazil a Laser is u$s 11.400.- = $R 18.350.-

http://www.geocities.com/drloser24/Precios.jpg

Dr Loser :)
....keep waiting some answer of some ILCA's authority.

 

Dr._Loser

From 3# World
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THIS POST I HAVE SENT TO THE LASER WORLD COUNCIL
Dr Loser

****************************************

Sailing a Laser is a sport.
And is a school for life.
I do not understand the arrogance of the behavior of Jeff & Hini.

Rarely is a very deliberate authoritarianism so accepted.

I would ask Jeff, Hini and the entire laser WORLD COMEETE
wher have you forgotten the Olympic spirit ?????


I have a hope.

Jeff and Hini will be replaced in the future.

I already am an old person, like you both, and I know that young people are our hope.

That young people is the only generate changes.

And you have forgotten all the young people of South America, that is for what I am here, for my children.

The young people are tired that mistreat and that the use not only the people of South americas, Jeff & Hini mistreat
young people around the world.

I'm not a person powerful, but at least I still remains for me to shame, something that Jeff & Hini have not.

Do not worry, I do not wait for your answer any more, you are so powerfull !!!!!!!!!

Dr. Loser or Alex,
an ordinary guy.


**********************************************************************************************

Navegar en laser es un deporte.
Y el deporte es una escuela para la vida.

Yo no comprendo la arrogancia del comportamiento de Jeff & Hini.

Pocas veces se ve un autoritarismo tan deliberado y tan aceptado.

Yo le pregunto a Jeff, a Hini y al TODO EL LASER WORLD COMEETE:
dónde olvidaron el ESPIRITU OLIMPICO ?????

Yo tengo una esperanza.

Jeff y Hini serán reemplazados en el futuro.

Yo ya soy una persona vieja, como ustedes dos, y sé que la gente jóven es nuestra esperanza.

Que la gente jóven es la única de generar cambios.

Y ustedes se han olvidado de la gente jóven de Sud America, es por eso que yo estoy aquí.
La gente jóven está cansada que la maltraten y que la usen, no solamente a la gente de Sud America, Jeff & Hini
maltratan a los jóvenes de todo el mundo, también a los de Europa y USA.

Por lo menos a mi aún me queda verguenza, cosa que Jeff &Hini no tienen.

Dr. Loser or Alex,
un tipo común.:):):):):):):)
 

Dr._Loser

From 3# World
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This post is for the members of T.L.F.

Today was the first day in the Olimpics Games for Laser Sailors.

My sincere congratulations to all these brave young sailors from all the world !!

Please, think about these partial results:

Laser - Men - Overall Results
FIRST DAY

Link:
http://www.sailing.org/olympics/resultscentre.php


2º ITA Diego Romero

( He is from ARGENTINA and this is his SECOND year for ITALY Team )


3º ARG Julio Alsogaray
FIRST RACE 1º POSITION !!!!


18º CHI Matias Del Solar
19º URU Alejandro Foglia
27º BRA Bruno Fontes



I do not care about the final results.........or who will win the Gold Medal.

These young guys are from South America.

Do you understand why Dr Loser is fighting against the I.L.C.A.'s political items?

Young people from South America, must they be excluded in the future ????


Dr. Loser:):)

 

Rob B

Well-Known Member
I thought you might get a little worked up Dr. Looser after the South Americans did so well. Congratulations to them for doing well.
 

Dr._Loser

From 3# World
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Thanks to all messages!!!!!!


We know that the Olimpic Laser Games are very long !!!!!..........to win only one race is nothing !!!!!


Mr. Julio Alsogaray have sent a message to the world, and the message is:

"SOUTH AMERICA EXISTS"


And the authorities of the Laser Class must hear him.


You know Dr. Loser very well.
I am Alex, and my nickname is Dr. Loser
Here I show you my position in the ARG Master Ranking..............is a shame !!!!!!.......see Sail 169451............32º

http://www.laserarg.com/rankfinaalmal2006.htm


...here you have my pic sailing for the glory !!!!!

http://www.geocities.com/drloser25/Forum.jpg



.............but:

We are Laser Sailors, and we know what is 15 knts. wind........or hicking 20 minutes in a 20 knots wind.
......or go to gym 2 times a.................month !!!!!!!

All these 47 young sailors are an example for us !!!!!!


I know that Laser Class is "a big business" for some guys....
But they do not must forget that is a "school of life" for us and our children.


The Olimpic Games are a party, we must enjoy them !!!!!!


Congratulations to all Olimpic Laser Sailors of the World !!!!!!
WE ARE PROUD OF YOU !!!!!!


Dr. Loser :):):):):):):):):)
 

Wavedancer

Upside down?
Staff member
Florencia was first around the first four marks, but not at the fifth, which was very close to the finish line. The French lady (Steyaert) caught up with her ever so slowly downwind between the fourth and fifth marks. There was almost no breeze and the boats were tossed around by the chop. Very difficult sailing.

Good to see another name for a change, doing so well :)
 

Dr._Loser

From 3# World
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You know Weavedancer, this is another problem that we in ARG must resolve.

Florencia Cerruti lives in ARG, she was born in ARG, she study, in ARG, her coach is from ARG........
but she is in the team of Paraguay.

We have four ARG sailors, but only two in the ARG team.

What a pity !!!!! :(:(:(

Dr Loser
 

Murphs

New Member
You can only have two in the ARG team Dr...

You should be proud that your ARG countrymen/women are better than your neighbour countries too
 

Dr._Loser

From 3# World
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Murphs, you are RIGTH !!!!!...........excuse me !!!!:D

So, what we must resolve is do not lose sailors like Diego Romero, he is working in Europe, Italia.
 

Dr._Loser

From 3# World
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You know, I am a Loser !!!

Yesterday I woke up very early, I worked hard all day long and I was waiting till today 02:00 AM to watch the races....
......so the 4º race was delay and at 03:00AM I quit.....

Now is 07:00 am, and how have changed the positions in the fleet !!!!!!!!

Paul GOODISON 1º position in the fleet !!!!!
GREAT SAILING !!!!!
C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S !!!!!!!!


So, for a funny day, I want to share with you a very funny pic of the great Capizzano !!!!!
...........he is a Great Sudaka Photographer.
http://www.geocities.com/drloser25/Woww.jpg


Surely Mr Jeff Martin is celebrating Mr GOODISON's voctory,
Today he'll not answer...............no problem....
... as we say: today "beer is free" !!!!!

But do not forget Jeff:

South America
is waiting your answer Jeff !!!!

Dr. Loser:)
 

Dr._Loser

From 3# World
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Today ILCA is a DEMOCRATIC organizacion.........
.......but it could be MORE democratic than now !!!!!


Possibly, the challenge of future authorites of ILCA is trying to transform the ILCA much more democratic than today.


For example:

We are Sudakas, but we understand that
the ILCA's arrogant answer is:

"The answer is
there is not answer,
SUDAKAS"


......and this is democratic,
...................but few democratic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ILCA's LAYOUT
http://www.geocities.com/drloser25/ILCALAYOUT.jpg


En español para Sudakas:

Hoy la ILCA es una organización democrática,
pero lo puede ser aún más !!!!!!

Posiblemente, el desafío de las futuras autoridades de la ILCA sea tratar que sea la ILCA sea mucho más democratica que hoy.

Por ejemplo:
Entendemos cual es la respuesta de ILCA:

"La respuesta es que
no hay respuesta
para los
SUDAKAS"


Dr Loser :)

 

Dr._Loser

From 3# World
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WHAT A FLEET !!!!!
GREAT LEVEL !!!!!
ANYONE CAN WIN THE GOLD !!!!!

Undoubtedly there is a very high competitive level and evenly, the gold is for anyone, no margin of error and it is very difficult to recover posts !!!!

Here a pic of Sudaka Sailor Alsogaray, he did it again !!!:)

http://www.geocities.com/drloser25/JULITO.jpg

Dr. Loser:)
 

Dr._Loser

From 3# World
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GREAT LASER PODIUM !!!!!


1º Mr. Paul Goodison,

2º Vasilij ZBOGAR

and 3º from Italy
DiegoROMERO.com.ar !!!!



http://www.geocities.com/drloser25/Goodisoncel.jpg


In London 2012, there will not be more South American Sailors, at last !!!!

Mr. Alsogaray is a Top Ten Laser Sailor,
But the most important is, as nothing will change, he is

"THE LAST TOP TEN
OLYMPIC SUDAKA LASER SAILOR
OF THE HISTORY !!!!!"


And surely he will sail for a first world country very soon !!!!


http://www.geocities.com/drloser25/Albert.jpg


.....but........................always we have a "but"......

I have bad news for you, "SWITZERLAND 180897"

http://www.cesm.net/fr-laser-masters-2008-liste-des-preinscrits-152-49-smenu.html


Dr. Loser :)

 

Dr._Loser

From 3# World
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Dear "SWITZERLAND 180897":

Now you have no more excuses to have a meeting with ARG authorities !!!!!

Mr. Charly Palombo (President of the ARG Laser Class) ,
and Mr. Edy Branz (Stripper) , great people from ARG, good friends of mine, will be in Corsica next September for the Euro Masters !!!!!


EURO MASTERS
http://www.cesm.net/uk-welcome-at-cesm--1-menu.html


I have A GREAT IDEA !!!!!
YOU CAN MEET Mr. Palombo in Corsica

and resolve this !!!!!!
You have his personal e-mail, write him, please !!!!!!!


And here you have the "BAD NEWS":

I will be in Corsica too !!!!!!
and without my wife !!!!!
COOOOOOOOL MAN !!!
I told her that I go to a very important Championship....
........and bla, bla, bla, bla.........GREAT, LOSER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We know that you are a very competitive sailor.

http://www.geocities.com/drloser25/Hini.JPG

....but in Corsica, forget about ranking, forget about great level !!!!!!.............relax...........enjoy !!!!!!
A nice place, wonderful women, Martini dry, Top Collins, german beer............YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

Do not worry if you win again the wooden spoon like in this picture !!!!!!!

This is me, dancing with my french friend "Margot"
...............WOWWWWW !!!


http://www.geocities.com/drloser25/Peluca.jpg

Margot lives in Corsica, has a lot of french funny friends !!!!!!!
......COOOOOOOOL MAN !!!

We must finish with this idiot quarrel !!!!!
.....we must smoke the peace pipe !!!
....it depend on you !!!!!

You are "OUR PRESIDENT", you are a serious person.
So, be honest with all T.L.F. , please answer this to us:

We know that you are rich and you live at the very rich Switzerland, the richest county of the universe but:

Would you pay u$s 11.400.- CASH
for a Laser,
living in a Sudaka Country ????

http://www.geocities.com/drloser25/Precios.jpg


We hope you'll be at Semana de Buenos Aires (ARG),
I'll be your host !!!!!!
.......we have no legal boats, but no problem !!!!!!!!

http://www.laserinternational.org/fixsa.htm

Dr Loser :)

P.D.: Please say nothing about all this to "The guy that never answers " ........he is so bored........
 

Dr._Loser

From 3# World
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Bonjour les amis !!!!
Ils ont de bons amis ce jour-là la pratique Fracas!!!

Wood morning my friends !!!!
You must practic French !!!!

While we keep waiting the
I.L.C.A. - SUDAKA MEETING
at CORSICA,


Let me introduce you the ARG team:

I'll let you know all about Mr. Charly Palombo and Mr. Edy Branz training for the Euro Masters 2008.


Charly (Our dear ARG PRESIDENT)
He is very competitive, but Charly must practic no sail so close to the buoy.

http://www.geocities.com/drloser26/Charly.jpg



Edy ( the stipper )
He is very creditable because he has three hernias, ruptures in his back, and he wants to be in the GUINNESS !!!!!!

http://www.geocities.com/drloser26/Edy.jpg


DIEU BÉNISSE SUDAKAS !!!!!
GOD BLESS YOU SUDAKAS !!!!!

au revoir !!!!!
bye bye !!!!!

Dr. Loser :)

P.S.:
As this thread "HOW MUCH IS A NEW LASER?"
has become so bored, enjoy this funny video:

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=8CC4plAJvuE&mode=related&search=
 

Dr._Loser

From 3# World
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Bad news for good guys:

Surely this post will be censured.

I could not read yet what Hini says in page Nº7..........but I can imagin it.


I have said a lot, I have spoken a lot.

Now I'd like to read, we need to read,
what the honest T.L.F. members think.


Have you read Laser World Sept 2008 yet ?
...here you have it.

(PDF of 2008 Laser World removed by Merrily because it is copyrighted information.)


This year we have the last
BUENOS AIRES WEEK 2008
in ARGENTINE

http://www.laserinternational.org/fixsa.htm


but..................

BUENOS AIRES WEEK 2009

ARGENTINA


IS NOT MORE IN THE AGENDA

A big applause to "Tom and Jerry" and their council.

Dr. Loser :mad:
 

Dr._Loser

From 3# World
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I have read the next Laser World Setember 2008.

I can not believe what I have just read !!!!!


http://www.geocities.com/drloser25/MONO.jpg


In the picture, why are you laughing Hini ???? (Dr. Loser is referring to the picture of Heini Wellman in the PDF that I deleted. Merrily)


Dr. Loser
...................I need vacations..........
 

Merrily

Administrator
Loser, you can't publish that PDF here. It is copyrighted information which you have to be a current ILCA member to view when it is new. I'll go out on a limb and quote the part I think is relevant to this thread.

Quoted from Sept 2008 World Laser Sailor. Heini Wellmann, "Therefore, by buying a new or second hand Laser in one country and importing it into a country which is in the territory of another builder, you risk that the other builder takes legal action against you. This has already happened in the past: Lasers have been seized and detained by customs offices and have been returned to the country of origin at considerable cost to the person trying to import the boats.
However, in the case of the Laser there is an additional agreement to be considered. Before being selected as Olympic Equipment, all builders, the class and ISAF have signed an agreement that defines the rights and duties of each party during the period the equipment is selected for the Games. In one part of the agreement it is specified that the trade mark, trade name or copyright holders and the manufacturers will allow any individual sailor and/or organisation to buy a boat ready to sail, spare parts and sails from any licensed builder/producer/dealer worldwide, provided that such purchase is for the exclusive use of the sailor or organisation and is not used in a business or trade or for any commercial activity."
 

Dr._Loser

From 3# World
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Dear Merrily:

Is a pity that you only censure me.

Since four month to today, I do not know what you think

I have read only your first words, and

YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN !!!


".....Loser, you can't publish that PDF here. It is copyrighted information which you have to be a current ILCA member to view when it is new........."



In Sudakas Countries, we do not know a lot of thinks,
we are very ignorants,
so thanks to Mr. Bill Gates we have GOOGLE, Do you know GOOGLE ???
.....is fantastic Merrily !!!


Visit this links !!!!!!!

http://www.laserinternational.org/__...LaserWorld.htm
(I have replaced with a legal link. Merrily.)

Merrily, you can do a lot for us, moreover censore me,
you are a very important person.


Dr. Loser:)

P.S.:
I'am wrong......YOU THINK AS HINI & "The man that never answer" think

(Once again, I have deleted a copyrighted PDF from Loser, Merrily.)
 

Merrily

Administrator
Loser, because someone else publishes the Laser World PDF doesn't make it legal to publish here. I'm tired of this and am closing the thread for now.

Merrily
 

Merrily

Administrator
OK, so it is public information. It still may not be legal to publish it here, but I'll let it stand until I hear otherwise.

I'm still closing the thread because, YOU ARE SO RUDE!
 

LooserLu

LooserLu
Che Chabon's,
as the way is open again for discussion, to me, there are some very small open questions about the thoughts of Heini Wellmann's text, that he wrote at Laser World Magazine of September 2008.

In a reply of Merrily at the open discussion section (http://www.laserforum.org/showpost.php?p=52019&postcount=11)
She did wrote:

Merrily said:
...
In part, he got what he originally wanted, a response from Heini Wellmann in the Laser World Sept 2008. It's his ego that demands a personal response. ...
Is it sure that Heini is talking to Alex or the Laserites of SA or is he speaking all of us? I say: It would not be an effective way, to response at the "Laser World". Heini does know very well the adresses and cellphone-numbers of the SA Laser Classes Chairmen, I think.
And also, "IF" it would be such a response, why he not direct says it at the beginning ~ "Dear Laserites of South America, here are some words of the ILCA-President as a response to you...."? Heini does talk to every ILCA-Laserite, so he is talking also to me and you, I guess.

Direct to Heini's text I have some very small questions:

- Are all Lasers really "equal"??? {-> ...search this forum for the (many) answer(s)...}

- WHO is the actual responsible "Out of the box boatbuilder" that provides the trademark "The Laser" (as a sailing dinghy) at South America?

{BTW: From former threads at TLF and other websides at the internet we all know: "LaserPerformance Ltd. Europe" and "LaserPerformance Inc. USA (former: Vanguard Inc.)" are owned by "Gavel Securities Ltd./Inc."at Banbury/UK.}

- Who is actually and in future officially "Laser-Direct"-Shop for the Countries of South America (SA)?

- If there is no official "Laser-Direct"-Shop in the moment at SA: Who is permitted to import boats to SA (not only for privat use, but to resell those Laser's and Laser-Parts, during there is no official Laser-Direct"-Shop)?

- What, in the moment, does do ILCA (/ILCA office) for SA, to reorganize the import of Lasers and its Laserparts?- And: Is anyone of the district-officers of SA involved in that process / and who is that person?

- If SA "sudakas" buy boats for example here: http://www.psjpn.co.jp/ , does the customs of the SA-countries have to deny the import and send back the boats to Japan? and: Who of official "out of the box boatbuilders" and "trademark holders" will punish the people that not are permitted to import classlegal Laser to SA?

- What is about all the sellers and customers, that offer or buy their Laserparts and 2nd-hand Laser-boats at and parts f.e. "Ebay".xyz. Do they now all have to be afraid, to get a letter of the advocates of their related "Out of the box boatbuilder" in future?

Chau Chabon's
LooserLu
 
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