How fast does the 14.2 turtle?

Winston29

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This is a silly question, because the results could vary widely depending on conditions, like wind speed, wave height, etc, so I just mean in general how long...

One day, when I get around to it, I'm going to tie my Capri up at the dock, with the mast float removed, and tip it over, just to see how fast it goes turtle on me.
I'll tie a length of rope to the masthead so it doesn't go all the way upside-down before I can save it.

I don't waste a lot of time getting my boat back upright after it capsizes, so I'm wondering (hoping) I can do away with the heavy, ugly thing.
I mainly use it because the water where I sail is ridiculously shallow and has a super muddy bottom that likes to grab masts and hold on tight.

I get that it's easy, cheap insurance against turtling, but I've read many, many times that the added weight up high, increases the likelihood that I'll capsize in the first place.

I'm just curious what other 14.2 owners have experienced when capsizing their boats.
 

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FreeRide

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Before last weekend, it had been awhile for me. Granted last weekend Free Ride only went on its side. But it took a few seconds, and I had about a second to realize I was going over and still had time to slide into the water. In that instance I was solo and got caught by a wind shift and mild gust (10-12 knots) mid-gybe. I was pleased I got the boat back on its feet in short order.
In a instance a several years back, we were trying to get out to a race course in ~25 knots of wind with gusts. I was trying the short traveler with knots to keep it centered for the first time. It wouldn't point worth a damn. The vang was insufficient to keep the leech trimmed and the boom was flogging around mightily. As soon as I got it to nose up into the wind, it slammed over to the other tack and slammed into the water. In that case it went from upright to full turtle with the mast buried 5 feet into mud in about 2 seconds. We stood it up and restarted 3 times before we gave up trying to actually sail away. We finally stood it up and slowly reached around the point, driving and trimming from the water, back out of the full wind, before climbing aboard. That incident broke a spreader and my pride. The other Capri 14 (we are both mod 1s) made it out to the course, but also had problems staying up. They lost their hatch and swamped. Fortunately, I had the prescience to duck tape my hatch in place and add air bladders inside the hull. I still drained a butt load of water from the hull.
To make a long story short (too late, I know), I have only ever turtled in high wind and laying it on its side normally feels like slow motion when it is happening. In my cases, two outta three times, I "tripped over the centerboard" during a gybe that was screwed up by a wind shift. The full turtle was due to being out in conditions that exceeded mine and the boat's capabilities.

Cheers, Karl
 

Winston29

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As soon as I got it to nose up into the wind, it slammed over to the other tack and slammed into the water. In that case it went from upright to full turtle with the mast buried 5 feet into mud in about 2 seconds.
2 seconds?? Yikes! Fortunately I plan to sail in much lighter winds.. Mellow daysailing is my main interest, to start at least.
Still, I guess I'll hang onto that ugly float a while longer. Better safe than sorry.
 

FreeRide

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2 seconds?? Yikes! Fortunately I plan to sail in much lighter winds.. Mellow daysailing is my main interest, to start at least.
Still, I guess I'll hang onto that ugly float a while longer. Better safe than sorry.
Well it felt like 2 seconds. It was probably longer before the mast was burried in the mud. It was a very rough day in all respects.
However, I recommend you get out with a able-bodied crew on a nice day and practice laying it on its side and righting it. One trick I heard from my friend who swamped that day was to have the crew get into the cockpit while it is on its side. It should make it easier to right and will come up with them in the boat. I want to practice that when I have the right crew along.
 

Winston29

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My first week of ownership, I knocked it over at the dock several times, and quickly found I was grateful the previous owner had installed a rope, boarding ladder, attached at the Barney Post. I have since installed a second rope ladder, made with 1/2" rope, that runs through one of the drain holes in the transom. I plan to add a 4" length of PVC pipe to the rope to act as a more comfortable and supportive step.

The third week, a friend (a much more experienced sailor) and I got the chance to practice unintentional capsize recovery in open water and high winds, twice in the same day. It was great fun! :D I wanted to try the "scoop" method, but with me weighing 240# and him a scant 150#, it wasn't happening.
Both times he didn't even get his feet wet when we capsized. He was always able to end up straddling the high side of the boat, and right it without going for a swim.

I found the 14.2 so ridiculously easy to get back upright, I found myself laughing out-loud when it just popped back up with almost no effort on my part. Getting back in, on the other hand, proved to be a "little" more difficult.
 

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