Family not too thrilled

#21
This seems to be an unnecessary slur and unwarranted attack on all women. In my experience most women are not like this at all. In fact I haver only ever met one women who answers to this description. Fortunately, though my wife is quite competent at reading, computers are currently beyond her!

This seems to be an unnecessary slur and unwarranted attack on all women. In my experience most women are not like this at all. In fact I haver only ever met one women who answers to this description. Fortunately, though my wife is quite competent at computers, Laser Forums are currently beyond her!
 

Merrily

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#22
This seems to be an unnecessary slur and unwarranted attack on all women. In my experience most women are not like this at all. In fact I haver only ever met one women who answers to this description. Fortunately, though my wife is quite competent at computers, Laser Forums are currently beyond her!
This seems to be an unnecessary slur and unwarranted attack on all women. In my experience most women are not like this at all. In fact I have only ever met one women who answers to this description. Fortunately, though I'm quite competent at The Laser Forum, this thread is currently beyond me!
 
#23
This seems to be an unnecessary slur and unwarranted attack on all women. In my experience most women are not like this at all. In fact I have only ever met one women who answers to this description. Fortunately, though I'm quite competent at The Laser Forum, this thread is currently beyond me!
This seems to be an unnecessary slur and unwarranted attack on all women. In my experience most women are not like this at all. In fact I have only ever met one woman who answers to this description. Fortunately, though if this thread is beyond Merrily, we can safely assume that any discussion of large purchases on this thread will remain understandable only to men.

;)
 

Merrily

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#24
This seems to be an unnecessary slur and unwarranted attack on all women. In my experience most women are not like this at all. In fact I have only ever met one woman who answers to this description. Fortunately, though if this thread is beyond Merrily, we can safely assume that any discussion of large purchases on this thread will remain understandable only to men.

;)
Thhhhppp!!! :p

Only thing, the Laser is a large purchase? I guess that's relative. I'm also wondering, are there many men who would like it if their wives spent $1500 to $5000 without consulting them? Consider a trip to the mall and $1500 worth of clothing.
 
#26
Thhhhppp!!! :p

Only thing, the Laser is a large purchase? I guess that's relative.
I don't know how much money you make from "royalties" out there in Ohio, but a Laser is a large purchase for most of us, I think. Once you are spending more than the month's mortgage payment you are getting into extra-large purchases.

I'm also wondering, are there many men who would like it if their wives spent $1500 to $5000 without consulting them? Consider a trip to the mall and $1500 worth of clothing.
That would not be good.
 

Merrily

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#27
Once you are spending more than the month's mortgage payment you are getting into extra-large purchases.
Yeah, it's a fair bit of change to buy a used Laser, but you can pay it off in a reasonable amount of time, unlike a car a or a house. That's what I meant by relative. My husband and I are house hunting right now, so believe me, I know sticker shock.

Sorry that this has gotten off topic. The poster wanted some good things to tell his wife about Lasers and sailing, and I think that we've been helpful there.
 
#28
i personally think that even if he sails it by himself it is healthy for his relationship ... if both parties do the same thing all the time they have nothign to talk about so thats when you have @#% fights. :p
 
#29
Thhhhppp!!! :p

Only thing, the Laser is a large purchase? I guess that's relative. I'm also wondering, are there many men who would like it if their wives spent $1500 to $5000 without consulting them? Consider a trip to the mall and $1500 worth of clothing.
Why would she want do that? Do they sell mens Laser sailing kit at your mall?
 
#31
Hi, I haven't sailed a boat in 20 odd years. However I remember how much I enjoyed the "Lido 14'" that I had in my youth. I just purchased a 12' 1990 Laser on e-bay, kind of on a impulse. I'm going to be picking her up tommorow. My daughter and wife looked at me like I was out of my mind. I explained how much fun sailing is. My wife asked if it will allow 2 people to sail. I told her no this is a one person vessel. My daughter and her replied "what fun is that". I didn't have much of an answer. Can you guys help me out on this one. Thanks. Mike.
I also bought myself a laser a few months back after being away from sailing for 20+ years. I made sure that my wife understood that this was a really cheap option vs the new porsche and/or mistress ;-). Fortunately she is very understanding - though for some reason she can't see herself joining me at the lake this winter while I relearn to sail before next season's racing.
 
#32
I piled my kids (one at a time) into the Laser with me on the 4th. It was blowing around 10, and puffy. I was thankful for such (relatively) mild breeze.

The laser cockpit feels very crowded when racing, but that's largely a consequence of sailing with the vang on hard bringing the boom down low to the boat. For daysailing with my family, I left the vang way off, buying us a lot more space to move around the boat.

Anyhow, my 4 year old would sit in the cockpit in front of me, with one hand hanging on the hiking strap. She has a tended to sit facing backwards rather than forwards, but that didn't seem to matter. Since she was sitting right at the mainsheet block, I soon adapted a technique of trimming the mainsheet directly from the boom, and ignoring the cockpit ratchet block.

My older boys (ages 10 & 13) also sat in front of me.

My 13 year old is a fair beginning sailor (he's taken some classes and has earned his Boy Scout sailing merit badge.) For a while he trimmed the mainsheet while I steered sitting aft him. Originally, I was worried that the 44" tiller extension would be in the way with two on board, but I was thankful for it as it allowed me to hike the boat flat in the puffs. Similarly, the kids were able to work the long extention without getting too hung up on it.

After a while, we swapped roles and he steered while I trimmed. The biggest complaint here was that I seemed to get in the way of the driver's view forward. I tried to convince him that he needed to sit outboard of me, as I would move in and out of the boat as needed to keep it (more or less) trimmed flat.

On his second time out, I convinced my younger son that he ought to take the helm for a while. He's much newer to sailing but he was doing a good job of compensating as puffs would tend to head the boat up into the wind. (As most beginners do, he had to be coached to avoid "oversteering.")

All day long I made light of the possibility of capsize; saying it was the worst thing that could happen but if it did all that would happen was that we'd get wet, and then right the boat. No big deal.

Well, when my 10 year old tried to steer his first tack of the day, we got to try it out. He stalled the boat going into the tack then oversteered coming out, and over we went -- *plop.* I should probably feel a little guilty about doing a "dry recovery" while he went fully into the drink, but I salve my conscience by recalling that this made the recovery much quicker than if I'd had to swim 'round the boat to right from the water, and so he got out quicker that way too.;) Cagey old guys rule.:cool:

I've often had the experience in sailing with kids of going from "boring-too-slow" mode straight to "scary-overwhelmed" mode as the wind came up. But the Laser planes so easily on a reach that I was able to get us going fast and lighting up the go-fast-grin-o-meter without setting off the whoa-I'm-scared-o-meter.
 
#33
I just started sailing again after many moons ago on Hobies, Sunfish and
a C15. I can remember hearing "windboat do what got to have a mtr."
Well they went out with me and were stoked couldn't wait to go again!!!!
Get em out on it and they will be changed even if you flip it they will laugh
later.
 
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