Discussion in 'Laser Talk' started by psychonurse91325, Dec 8, 2007.
is it sealed hopefully not righ?
i thought it was bad to store a laser on the bottom hull??? mine has 3 spots that sit just under the gunnel of the boat. with the bottom hull floating above the trailer.
most of the people at my sailing club just put their dolly onto a "Box trailer". this way you can use the trailer for your saturday morning tip runs and tow your boat...
Hi again, I am now of a mind to buy a Mini utility trailer that has a flat metal beamed floorbed. My plan is to build up a wood base to fit the hull of the laser. What I need is a pattern of the curvature of some section of the hull (front and back) or (aft and stern) to build my carrier. . Any suggestions how I could make a pattern of the hull shape so it sits nicely in the rack would be appreciated. I was originally just going to buy a generic trailer and put plywood down to make a flat surface. Then I thought I would rathter have it in sailable position as I lift it out of the trailer into the water. I'm thinking it would be easier. Mike.
You can do something like this with a utility trailer. I believe this image is from D5 in Canada.
...or a Kitty Hawk trailer designed just for the Laser. It doubles as a dolly right from the car because it's so light.
Either type of trailer tows better with 12" diameter wheels. Many utility trailers as well as Kitty Hawks come with 8".
The Kitty Hawk is a great trailer, don't get me wrong. But its kind of like the iphone, it does everything, but not very well. It's great for trailering short distances, but not cross country. And it's an ok yard dolly, but not for at the end of the day, when your tired, and you have to pull it all up the 35 foot long launching ramp, and and it's waaaaaay low tide. You have to have your own dolly. There's pretty much no way around it.
Thats why a regular trailer is the best-long distance-minamal eforret user friendly -only takes one person.Regular as in float on.
most big regatta's don't do float on laser launching, you MUST have a dolly. You won't be able to get away with that at Miami/ABYC OCR, CORK, MWW, MWE, NA's
Mastermike, thanks for the pictures. This kind of input really helps me. My hope is to keep the cost very low. I have access to a flat type utility trailer for next to nothing. I want to build (plywood ect) a curved carrier to seat the laser. Of course I could buy a Kitty Hawk but right now cost must be considered. I need to figure out how to make a pattern of the curvature of the bottom of the boat to fabricate the carrier to attatch to my trailer. Any input from anybody appreciated.
I suggest a Kitty Hawk but along with that purchase you might want to get a Fitness Made Simple Video tape and a set of barbels. This is a laser and you will have to be in shape. It also depends where you are launching the boat from. Beach, Ramp, etc.
Ross, what are the problems with using the Kitty Hawk to trail distances? I have used one for several years without any problems, sometimes trailing the boat several hundred miles at a time.
I just think it's not good on the hull. I've heard of it going right through the sides of the hull. But thats just my opinion. And I would want something a bit beefier to tow long distance, with bigger tires.
jeez. this guy just bought a boat. he hasn't sailed in 20 years, and we're already sending him to the NA's? whoooaah, hold on. it was already mentioned that he needs to to workout a little. true. also, to get a little or alot more familiar with exactly what you've gotten yourself into. buy a laser book and look at all the cool you-tube stuff scattered around this website. find a local club to get some land based knowledge before you even get wet. i'm just trying to be positive, because it will take baby steps before you're racing around the buoy's again. now go buy a trailer, already.
Ross, I am not sure what you mean about the trailer going through the sides of the hull. The hull is supported at 3 points under the gunwales. No other part of the trailer is in contact with the hull. Do you know how such an accident happens? I agree it is not very "beefy" but I think upgrading to the 12 inch tires helps for longer distance trailing.
I have seen the damage the two sides supports can do. I've seen them punch right through the hull. Also, you can get wicked cracking if there is not enough padding.
You don't want to do that. The Laser is not intended to be hauled this way. Either turn the boat deck side down on the trailer, or support it under the gunwales.
Here's a good thread discussing trailers, and there are many others.
Re: Kitty Hawk
I just hauled my Kitty Hawk 1200 miles plus to Vancouver BC and back, 75 to 85 mph. No problems. The trailer supports hardly make a mark on the side of the hull. The supports are soft plastic and the same shape as the recess under the gunwale, and the hull is strapped down tight to them. They have some 'give' from side to side, so if there's a lateral load on the boat the hull moves and the supports don't dig in.
I put 12" wheels on it so it rolls nicely on the highway. On soft sand beaches a dolly would be nice, but I haven't had any trouble on steep ramps by myself. I yank it over a vertical 8" curb into the yard all the time.
As Merrily said, with a utility trailer, it's best to carry the boat deck down, and it's much easier to cut supports to fit the deck shape. Support it at the back of the cockpit and the mast step. If you have a dolly, it sits on top upside down. The photo I attached has a storage box between the boat deck and the trailer bottom where he carries his blades and gear.
If you find yourself turtled in a storm and sitting on the bottom for a quick rest, you'll see that the bottom is quite soft compared to the deck.
hold old is your boat?
Re: This is one old BOAT
1996. Trailer came with the boat.
in socal, they heavily frown upon going 75-85 with a trailer
60 is usually the sweet spot
i agree three supports under the gunwales is the way everyone has done it for ever here in Cairns .... i have never seen any sign of cracking ... splitting ... or any damage whatsoever doing it this way ...
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