Sail Cleaning

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  1. will162878

    will162878 New Member

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    I rinse my sail and use detergent to clean it every so often, but detergent doesn't seem to get the persistent stains out.

    What can be used to remove persistent stains?
    Any ideas?

    Also, apparently, McLube (dry lubricant) can be used to stop tell tales sticking to the sail when wet. Does this work? What are your opinions on the legality of this practice (Re: ILCA Rules)??
     
  2. laser161116

    laser161116 New Member

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    My sails get dirty a lot too, but I don't know how to fix it.
     
  3. macwas16

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    You got me too. I clean boats for my dad as a summer jod and there are some great cleaning products out there that are environment friendly and won't hurt you sail. I've used roll-off and that seems to work pretty good. As far as the tell tales....it is unlikely it'd be illegal but deffinately check on that one, I'd like to know too.
     
  4. laser161116

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    speaking of cleaning boats, what do you guys use to make your boats fast and shiny.
     
  5. will162878

    will162878 New Member

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    Wax car polish for a shiny hull.
    Surface layer semi-solubles are banned by ILCA rules.
     
  6. macwas16

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    Mclube!!
     
  7. laser161116

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    i thought wax was slow. what about sand paper and teflon
     
  8. will162878

    will162878 New Member

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    The argument is between shiny, polished hull or a dull matt.
    The argument is that polich is slippery so less friction, but a dull matt finish with "micro-scratches" traps water, meaning that friction is between water and water, rather than water and gelcoat. Nothing has been proved. Neither will win you a race. The difference, if there is one, must change with conditions and even then, the difference is tiny. It is true that the main decellerating force in light winds is hull friction, but I don't think the difference is massive. Polish looks nicer.
     
  9. laser161116

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    A lot of sailors make their hulls shiny for mental purposes. Sure, the boat will go a little faster. The sailor knows that, but (at least for me) when I'm out on the water I can say: "My boat is faster than his/hers and I'm going to win."
     
  10. will162878

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    Of course the same argument can be applied to the foils. Does a matt surface grip the water better?
     
  11. macwas16

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    This topic is about sail cleaning but this raises a good point. I don't know what other people may think, but to me i think the worst thing you can do is sand any part of your hull. I preffer the smooth hull by waxing it or by puting McLube on it. If you sand it, someone brought up the point of water to water contact. I think this is a good theory but it will create a rigid hull although this these little grooves will be very small, the water may build in these and could either possibly work their way under the gelcoat or build up like little lumps which will create drag. I did sand my blades before the junior olympics last year but it real had no effect. We simply did that to get the corrosion and little bumps off. I don't know, the idea of sanding any hull or blades just gives me the chills.
     
  12. laser161116

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    The sanding of the hull is to get the little scratches out. I'm all for having a smooth/shiny hull, but what good is it if your hull has scratches
     
  13. will162878

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    Sanding will get the scratches out. Sand with 1500 grit and then you have a choice: polish or leave it. I go for polish.
     
  14. Fuzzy Metal

    Fuzzy Metal New Member

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    Anytime the talk moves to cleaning it turns to the old sand vs polish arguemnt. Amusing. Anyway. Back to sail cleaning. I have used Sail Bath by Davis. It works. McLube on ticklers! It works Wicked! I coat the ticklers and not the sail. Cheers.

    Steve.
     
  15. will162878

    will162878 New Member

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    Coating the tales makes sense - the material/finish of them is not restricted by class rules - thus perfectly legal. (Also uses less McLube.) Where can you buy this Sail Bath stuff?
     
  16. Fuzzy Metal

    Fuzzy Metal New Member

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    You should be able to get it from your local shop. Davis Instruments is the supplier part #Dav0795 and they have a sail bleach #dav0796. Good luck. If you get no joy e-mail me.

    Steve.
     
  17. Fuzzy Metal

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    Any Sailshop should be able to source it for you. It is from Davis Intruments Dav0795 is the order number. They also have a Sail Bleach for those stubborn stains. Dav0796. Davis Instruments is based in California.

    Steve.
     
  18. laser161116

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    Does the sail bath get out mold stains. The previous owner of my boat never heard of a sail bag.
     
  19. will162878

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    The hardest stuff to get out is mould stains, rust stains from rusing steel the sail has come into contact with and mud marks that aren't rinsed out straight away which can cause black streaky stains.
     
  20. laser161116

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    Do mold stains effect sail performance or just look ugly
     

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