Rhombus?

Discussion in 'Laser Class Politics' started by blacklionboy, Jul 16, 2007.

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Do you agree that wwomen should have a rhombus at the top of their sail?

  1. Yes

    11 vote(s)
    29.7%
  2. No

    26 vote(s)
    70.3%
  1. blacklionboy

    blacklionboy New Member

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    As many of you have heard a new rule might be introduced that makes woman have to put a rhombus at the top of your sail at http://www.laserinternational.org/rules2007/. i strongly disagree with this. but vote anyway
     
  2. AAHF

    AAHF New Member

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    Why? That would signify that somehow female sailors are different than male sailors when it comes to actual racing, which is not true.
     
  3. sailor327

    sailor327 New Member

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    hasnt this already been done?
     
  4. Ross B

    Ross B Guest

    all right, which of you two sods voted for it?
     
  5. Deimos

    Deimos Member

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    I've already given my Mr. Angry posts about how much I disagree with this proposed rule.


    Given that it already happens in Europe (not a rule I don't think, just a "practice" - not sure), and given that some people race in club boats, I assume that once a club boat has a rhombus on it sail it can only be sailed competitively by women. Being club boats they don't tend to have loads of sails for each sex using each boat (funds a bit limited) so I assume that boats end-up being split some dedicated to women and others dedicated to men.


    The few clubs I've visited tend to have quite a few boats for general use/hire and one, maybe two to a decent racing spec - and that one (maybe two) is taken off by a club member to competitions (people without their own boat effectively hire the club boat for the day/weekend with trailer, etc.). Thus, first woman who uses it (and puts her rhombus on the sail) then ensures that blokes can no longer use the boat in competitions !!


    (In France a lot of people, men and women sail Radials - Standards being the smaller fleets).


    I am not illustrating a problem as I don't know what is done about this, just a potential problem to a rule/practice that serves no purpose and is "ill-conceived".


    Ian
     
  6. OBX_6708

    OBX_6708 New Member

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    Couldn't a bloke just carry the universal red cirlce with the slash
    indicating NO Rhombus when sailing with one of these sails in competition?
     
  7. gouvernail

    gouvernail Active Member

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    Coool!!

    A guy buys a boat from a female and rather than take off the rhombus, he adds the circle and slash


    I like it.
     
  8. gouvernail

    gouvernail Active Member

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    Then a chick buys the boat from the guy and puts a bigger rhombus over the circle and slash
     
  9. gouvernail

    gouvernail Active Member

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    Oh wait!

    Another dude buys the sail from the chick and puts a new bigger circle and slash over the new bigger rhombus
     
  10. gouvernail

    gouvernail Active Member

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    Then a honey buys the sail from the dude and puts a bigger rhombus over the bigger circle and slash which is over the bigger rhombus
     
  11. gouvernail

    gouvernail Active Member

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    Pretty soon others recognize the improved performance of the new thicker sails and everybody starts selling sails two or three or ten times back and forth before actually using those sails.
     
  12. gouvernail

    gouvernail Active Member

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    Of course the eventuality will be sailors finding the superior performance inducing optimum number of added panels of sailcloth versus general detraction in performance caused by the added weight aloft
     
  13. gouvernail

    gouvernail Active Member

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    And then we will see sailors with heavy sails for medium air and light sails for light and heavy air.


    "I was winning the regatta but my performance fell off in the last few races because I had my thirty sells sail up and the wind started to crank."
     
  14. rock steady

    rock steady New Member

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    You guys are mad. This is a sensible rule change.

    It should encourage more solidarity between females sailors and bring more woman into racing Lasers. Good for the class hey!
     
  15. SkipperofVaruna

    SkipperofVaruna New Member

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    That's outrageous. Where I sail there aren't male/female distinctions and everyone just has fun racing together
     
  16. rock steady

    rock steady New Member

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    I think they are talking about a level of competition a little higher than your club.
     
  17. Michelle

    Michelle New Member

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    If somebody makes me put a red rhombus on my sail for a specific regatta I will without fussing too much, but I don't understand the reasoning for it to be required in anything other than an open Radial regatta that is also an Olympic qualifying event for the women. It's not like anybody has any trouble telling the guys from the girls. (Although sometimes people think I'm Dave Hartman because our sail numbers are so close)
     
  18. Merrily

    Merrily Administrator Staff Member

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    The reasoning is to make it easier for Race Committee to mark scores in large mixed fleets.
     
  19. SkipperofVaruna

    SkipperofVaruna New Member

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    it just doesn't seem necessary to me
     
  20. imevrythingevil

    imevrythingevil New Member

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