New Daggerboard 06' World boats

Discussion in 'Sunfish Talk' started by sfox, Oct 23, 2006.

  1. sfox

    sfox New Member

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    I've heard that the World's boats had a new style daggerboard. They have done away with the hand hold and went with a small hole in the rear of the board for a rope instead. Also that the shape at the bottom is slightly different and 1/4" longer. I was told that they did this because someone hurt their fingers lowering the board when the blue stopper broke. I was wondering if anyone at the worlds noticed if they changed the finish to be more like the new rudder?
     
  2. Wavedancer

    Wavedancer Upside down? Staff Member

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    No, the board is made of the same material as before and the finish looked the same as well (but note that I didn't take a very thorough 'microscopic' look). I prefer the previous version, but Vanguard made the change for safety reasons.
     
  3. Tim Polaski

    Tim Polaski 79429

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    The large hand hole was the coolest part about the "new" daggerboard. Talk about a step backward.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
  4. sfox

    sfox New Member

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    I have heard the same reactions from people who went to the worlds at my club. I guess we like our existing boards we better take care of them.
     
  5. oompanyc

    oompanyc Member

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    The key to the new daggerboards is one's ability to make a good handle, it's now very similar to the laser daggerboard in that regard. To be more specific on a previous post, I heard that someone actually lost a finger, or something along those lines. Supposedly, the stoppers had busted off when someone went to slam the board down. Personally, I would have prefer that they just reinforced the stoppers with a bolt, but all in all, it wasn't a major readjustment to deal with. The new boards were made in the UK, both rudder and daggerboard, I felt they have a little more a snazzy finish than previous boards, whatever that means.
     
  6. Tim Polaski

    Tim Polaski 79429

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    I'm stopping by a nearby dealer to grab up a spare old/new daggerboard. Finger slammer or not, I REALLY like the built in handle. Smooth finish or not.
     
  7. sailorf2

    sailorf2 New Member

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    I recently got a new boat, and I was suprised when it came with the board that didnt have the handle. I dicided to keep my old board. The length of the board should not be any different, otherwise the class would have to approve it. If it really is longer though, maybe I'll start useing the new one.
     
  8. imported_Scott

    imported_Scott Member

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    Anyone have a picture of the new board?
     
  9. beldar boathead

    beldar boathead Well-Known Member

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    It looks just like the "old" racing board but the handle hole is gone. There is a a new small hole at the aft end for tieing a rope between that hole and the foreward hole that has always been there. Really nothing too interesting to look at. BB
     
  10. Old Geezer

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    Just one more change that makes the Sunfish more and more like a Laser. In recent years we have had hiking strap, rolled deck edge, new rudder (twice), new daggerboard (twice), white sail, adjustable downhaul and outhaul.......


    What's next?
     
  11. Windwalker

    Windwalker New Member

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    I agree with you guys. I have a 05 Daggerboard with the hand hold, works great leave it alone.
     
  12. beldar boathead

    beldar boathead Well-Known Member

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    Geezer, your definition of "recent" and mine are quite different. My first fish was a 1968 and it came from the factory with a white sail. I don't think 38 years qualifies as recent (and the hiking strap was approved 21 years ago for that matter.)

    To really make the boat like a Laser we are going to need to switch rigs and hull shape. Until then, they remain quite different (unless your eyesight and sense of speed, feel, etc. are totally shot.) BB
     
  13. Old Geezer

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    I must be olderer than I thunked I was.
     
  14. mike4947

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    But my Sunfish does not sail like my Laser! The Laser is much easier to depower while you are sailing where with the Sunfish you have to struggle to adjust the gooseneck or stop and put in a Jen's rig. So in this respect the Sunfish is not becoming closer to a Laser.
     
  16. jsdeimel

    jsdeimel Member

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    I think the hiking strap was approved 11 years ago (96)
     
  17. beldar boathead

    beldar boathead Well-Known Member

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    The hiking strap was approved at the class meeting at the Sunfish Worlds in 1985, which meant everybody had to retrofit their existing boats. I don't know the first year that the manufacturer actually started installing them in new boats. All SLI boats had them, and they started making them around '91 or so. I think the Pearsons did too but am not sure. BB
     
  18. mike4947

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    I know my 1991 Pearson came with one and the 1990's I saw when I pre ordered my 1991 had them as stock for the "racing versions" that came with the racing sail, hiking strap, and metal tiller in place of the colored rec sail and wooden extension.

    As for ease of sailing give me the stability of a Sunfish any day over a Laser. Ease of depowering don't mean a thing if your turtled...LOL
     
  19. sailorf2

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    Personally, I like 99% of the changes that have been made to the sunfish. Then changing the centerboard was a safety issue that Vanguard had to make. This change does not change the performance of the boat in anyway. I agree that it is a little less convent, but it was one they had to make. However I don't like it either. Thats why I will keep my old board. If you don't like the changes, then you don't have to make them to your boat. The biggest improvement in my opinion was the racing board, which I don't see many people complaining about. I've never sailed a laser, but just by looking at the two boats they are completely different. I have raced against a laser in my sunfish, and it does go faster and does point a little higher. These boats will always be different, and feel different. The only way to make them feel the same, is to make them the same boat, and then there would be no sunfish. The centerboard is a small change that dosent really change the boat at all.

    Steve
     
  20. bhufham

    bhufham Dr Bill

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    I have one of the 2006 World Championship boats. Board is made in UK. Same size as old board. No handle hole. Instead, it comes with a 3' X 7mm rope to fashion a handle, using two holes in the top of the board. The rope handle works, but the knots get in the way. I finally taped off the knots to make sure they did not come apart under sail. They did once and that was a bit awkward. Bill H.
     

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