Laser Performance United

Discussion in 'Laser Class Politics' started by Tillerman, Jun 17, 2012.

  1. Tillerman

    Tillerman Member

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    There were some intriguing announcements on the Laser Performance Sailiboats Facebook page this week.

    On Monday...

    And in answer to a comment on that post Laser Performance Sailboats said...


    Then on Thursday...

    On Friday.... nothing.
     
  2. torrid

    torrid Just sailing

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    Oh, goody! Where do I send my check? So if I'm a due paying member of the LPU, does that mean LaserPerformance actually has parts available to sell to me?
     
  3. Wavedancer

    Wavedancer Upside down? Staff Member

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    Agatha Christie: please check in to resolve these mysteries.
     
  4. Wavedancer

    Wavedancer Upside down? Staff Member

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    Dame Agatha doesn't really fancy sailing she told me in a dream, but Hercule Poirot surmises that the fuss on FB is related to the upcoming June 30 deadline to apply for sponsorship from Maclaren.
     
  5. Mrs. P

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    Which Maclaren? USA or NA? If I'm not mistaken, one chops off children's fingers and refuses to compensate them and the other freely gives money to sailors. But I forget which is which ... or are they one and the same?
     
  6. 49208

    49208 Tentmaker

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    They are one in the same... Or at least Farzad Rastegar is the man behind the curtain of both companies
     
  7. sprayblond

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    Clearly trying to make their own class association to get around ILCA. Surely figured out by some utterly confused MBA.
     
  8. Tillerman

    Tillerman Member

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    I see that LaserPerformance United now has its own Facebook page with references on it to a Club 420 Union, an International Sunfish Union and an International Laser Union. There's also a press release which includes this quote from Bill Crane which may give some sort of clue as to what LPU is all about...

    and this...

     
  9. gouvernail

    gouvernail Active Member

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    Perhaps the baby buggy guys are more intelligent than that for which they have been credited.

    If they form their own class associattions they need not worry about dealing with a potential rise of the 'union" of sailors which used to be the class associations.

    The Laser class before baby Buggy was in independent organization generously funded by the builders.

    With lower membership numbers, the removal in 2002 of the only class officer who stood up to the builders, and a simple cut off of funding from the builders, there are neither sufficient assets nor interest in generating support for a Member driven class association.

    Mclaren would be foolish to waste this opportunity to remove the ILCA and replace it with something the monopoly builder can control.

    I hope Mclaren decides the most effective way to sell lots and lots of lasers is to set up dealerships whose mission includes encouraging the development of local fleets.

    Maybe mclaren will publish a newsletter with information about how to use the boats, how to maintian the boats, where to find boats, where to find fellow users, how to get involved, stories about fun events you missed, and lots of photos of smiling faces if sailors having a great time playing.

    If mclaren does that I might have to change my signature.
     
  10. Mrs. P

    Mrs. P Member

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    Gouv, what exactly are you trying to say? You're a Texan ... "union" is a dirty word that we don't take kindly to. Did you drink the LP, finger amputating, hide behind Olympic sailors, Maclaren kool-aid or are you taunting the ILCA and challenging them to grow a pair and step up and take control?
     
  11. gouvernail

    gouvernail Active Member

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    Taunting all the way!!!

    But I don't think the ILCA has a chance against any well funded builder who wants ILCA gone.
     
  12. AlanD

    AlanD Former ISAF Laser Measurer

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    Gees, last year the ILCA was trying to make out the PSA/Global Sailing were the bad boys.
     
  13. Tillerman

    Tillerman Member

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    ILCA did say last year that both LaserPerformance and Global Sailing had threatened to set up their own class associations. This appears, on the surface, to be LaserPerformance's follow through on that threat. Have we seen any similar move by Global Sailing?
     
  14. torrid

    torrid Just sailing

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    I'm sticking with the ILCA for now.
     
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  15. TonyB

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    According to the June LaserWorld newsletter, There was a Global Sailing rep at the recent ILCA World Council meeting in Boltenhagen, but no LP rep.

    Read into that what you will.

    In Tracy's report in the same newsletter, he says he is 'quite optimistic' that we wil soon see progress in resolving the issues.

    Final point of note is the 60k (pounds?) legal expenses in the 2011 ILCA accounts.
     
  16. torrid

    torrid Just sailing

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    Are the current newsletters still published on NA class website? I'm able to log in, but can only find links to past issues.
     
  17. TonyB

    TonyB Member

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    Not sure about NA but the ILCA newsletters are available here.
     
  18. suthera

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    Does anyone else think that was a really good news letter (For June 2012)? I’m not really interested in reading about a report about a regatta that happened months ago. Good to see that they haven’t bothered with regatta reports and instead give a report on the world council meeting, with reports form the outgoing and incoming presidents. Any they don’t hide from the big topics – builders, lack of parts, and inability to issue timely NORs for worlds are all discussed. Tracey also suggests he will be talking more about these issues soon – perhaps an admission that ILCA communications to members needs to be much better.

    I also really appreciated the outgoing presidents listing his achievements but also acknowledging challenges left for his successor. All of his listed achievements are tangible improvements for the class. Honest communication about what has, and has not, been achieved leaves me a lot less critical about the hideous lack of communication from the elected officials.

    Let’s hope they keep it up!
     
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  19. torrid

    torrid Just sailing

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    Yes, I was quite pleased to read this newsletter.
     
  20. Wavedancer

    Wavedancer Upside down? Staff Member

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    60 thousand pounds (?) for some really bad legal advice... Remember the vote on the Fundamental Rule? Ouch!
    Not a feather on Heini's cap IMHO.

    For some other views on the matter
    http://sailingforums.com/threads/stuff-it-kirby.23286/

    With that off my chest, let's return to the topic of this thread
     

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