Laser Bahia

Discussion in 'Laser Talk' started by Hanskie1001, May 11, 2011.

  1. LaLi

    LaLi Active Member

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    I have absolutely no experience with the Bahia, but checked out the rigging manual and parts list for the fun of it. What struck me was the recommendation of max 70 kg of static shroud tension. That is very loose, so much so that the jib luff wire/halyard tension would be off the lower end of the scale of most tension meters. This in turn means that any problem with the jib halyard turning block has nothing to do with its diameter, but rather being broken one way or another. Boats with 3 or 4 times that tension have 25 to 30 mm sheaves up there, and they don't kill the wire.
     
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  2. gosootygo

    gosootygo New Member

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    You are spot-on... I've been positively overtensioning it :) The fact that lower tensions always make the lee shroud go very slack was unnerving, so I ended up pulling as hard as I can on the purchase system. Now, I'm a toned 210lb, so I guess I was probably putting a good 200kg in that rig.
    I remember reading it when I first set up the rig, but probably completely forgot it.
    Off to find someone who can make me the replacement parts... not so easy in rural Greece. At least there's a t-storm forecast for the next 3 days, so there would be no sailing anyway. Raki time!
     
  3. Vittoria Dmowska

    Vittoria Dmowska 3D Architectural Visualization

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    The Bahia is a far better conceived package than the Omega imho, sounds like it would sort your purposes very well. As an accomplished capsiser and turtler I think rotomoulded boats do stand up to rough treatment better than other types of plastic.
     
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  4. mrfkl

    mrfkl New Member

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    Hello, I am considering buying a used Laser Bahia. I would buy it with a trolley -- but would need to find a road trailer for it. My understanding is that the boat with the trolley would go on top of the road trailer.

    My intention is to sail the boat at a lake where there is a boat ramp -- but no crane.

    My questions:

    Is it possible to launch the Laser Bahia on a lake with only a boat ramp? (No crane)
    What is the process for launching the boat? (assuming the setup I mentioned: road trailer + trolley + boat).
    Do I back the road trailer down the ramp with the car?
    will the road trailer go in the water? or do I need to remove the trolley and boat from the road trailer first?
    Is it difficult to launch the boat with the trolley down the ramp? Could one person do it?

    Also: if you have any advice on where the find the proper road trailer that would fit the Laser Bahia with its trolley, let me know.

    Thank you.
     
  5. LaLi

    LaLi Active Member

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    Of course.
    Yes. That's the whole point of the separate trolley/trailer setup.
    No, and yes. However, it's easier with two people, with one taking care of the launched boat and the other of the trolley.

    Putting the boat into the water doesn't require much strength (Isaac Newton is always there to help, even if you don't want it :D ), but it's the pulling a boat the size of a Laser Bahia (155 kg hull only) back up the ramp that takes at least two people, depending on the angle of the slope. But it's a double-(or triple-)handed boat anyway.

    I've sailed Lightnings (318 kg minimum all-up) for more than 10 years now, and I always use a ramp (provided one is available at the regatta site) and muscle power only, both ways. Not once have I had to leave the boat in the water :cool:
     
  6. mrfkl

    mrfkl New Member

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    Thank you! I was thinking there may be a way to back my truck with the road trailer all the way down the ramp and only then separate the boat and trolley from the road trailer. Then do the same on the way up... to avoid having to rely on muscle power alone.. especially in cases where I'm by myself.

    Would this work? or is it required to separate the trolley and trolley from the trailer first, then manhandle the trolley and boat down and up the ramp?

    Any suggestions on what to look for on a road trailer? any boat trailer that can fit a 15 ft boat? or are there other considerations given my objectives?
     
  7. torrid

    torrid Just sailing

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    If you are going to back the truck and trailer down the ramp, then why mess with a dolly?

    If you must move the trailer/dolly up and down the ramp, it depends on what is being used. It would probably work for these style trailer/dolly combos:

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    The dolly fits snug and secure in the trailer and attaches easily. These are popular in Europe, but not readily available in the US (I don't know where you are located).

    More typically in the US will find something like the Right-On Trailer:

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    It's secure once everything is tied down and you are cruising down the interstate. However, I would be unsure of using it to pull the boat out of the water without everything tied down 100%, the rig flopping in the wind etc. It's not as slick as the European trailer/dolly combos.
     

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