JC Strap+ Inhaul pics are up!

Discussion in 'Laser Talk' started by Ross B, Apr 12, 2007.

  1. tomsinamerica

    tomsinamerica New Member

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    george w.f. I'm right with you...

    I want my class to be challenging. I want to be challenged in all conditions I sail in. If I wanted a point and shoot machine then I'd sail catamarans or even worse, I'd just own a motorboat.
     
  2. Ross B

    Ross B Guest


    um noooo, it would just be there
     
  3. sekli

    sekli New Member

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    Hi,

    I sail in finn and laser too, and I founded difficult and annoying, to sail the laser in very light wind dw without the JC Strap. The JC is a very important part of the finn. Am I allowed to use a JC strap in the laser during the regattas? Is it legal? It's important for me, I used to sail with it in the finn.
     
  4. Rob B

    Rob B Active Member

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    Not legal on the Lasers.
     
  5. Josef

    Josef New Member

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    Why isn't it made just like on the finns or something? Very simple, works fine, very cheep.
     
  6. gouvernail

    gouvernail Active Member

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    Maybe you guys should consider racing Lasers.

    The object is to assemble a fleet of 100% equal boats and then each sailor can test his / her skills agains the rest of the fleet of those 100% equal boats.

    Lasers Don't have lots of nifty fittings found on some other boats.

    Laser Sailors simply try to bring the same toys so we can play the game we play.

    For over thirty years, this formul has worked well.

    Maybe you would like to join us and play the successful game we have been playing for the last thirty years.

    I would gladly be the first to welcome you.

    NO!!!! The other 180,000 of us are not interested in spending money and time purchasing new stuff so we can come play with you.

    You are a special person. We all are special people. Nobody is that special!!!

    Your proposal would cost over a million dollars to fully institute.

    We have lots of better uses for a Million bucks!

    Try joining the rest uf us in the very successful game!!

    Sail a Laser
     
  7. stick

    stick Member

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    thank you
     
  8. sekli

    sekli New Member

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    nice..., but there are much more bigger differences between the "100% equal" boats, than the JC...
     
  9. gouvernail

    gouvernail Active Member

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    So. We have a game that works fine. In fact it is the best and most popular sailing game in the world.
    A few individuals want the rest of us to change the game so their particular tastes can be better accomodated.

    Let's asume there are actually 1000 of you who really really want to use the JC device.

    if we allow the device, all the rest of us will have to go get one so we can compete with 100% equal boats...which is the onbject of laser sailing...

    If half of us, about 100,000 sailors build and install the devices at the least expensive prices quotes above.

    Your request will cost the rest of us over $10,915,000

    I am certain those who love Laser sailing can do better things for our game with $10,915,000
     
  10. bjmoose

    bjmoose Member

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    Holy smokes! Are there really 100,000 members of the ILJCA??
     
  11. Josef

    Josef New Member

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    I agree with gouvernail, this is how the laser is, if the change dosn't vastly improve the sailers experinece with the boat at a reasonably cheep prize, or makes the class cheeper it's really no use changeing.

    Sure, the laser formula has it's flaws, it can easily lead to certain things beeing vastly overpized, which we can obviously see =P. Another issue is of course how there is only one kind of mast so the sailer has to change his weight to fit the mast, instead of changeing the mast to fit his weight (of course this only applies to sailers on a quite high level).
    There are many issues like that, but it seems like in general people consider the advatages of the laser idea bigger than the dissadvatages.
    If you don't, buy a finn =p
     
  12. sailorsteven

    sailorsteven New Member

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    it kind of complicated and too expensive for my high school kid budget!
     
  13. Merrily

    Merrily Administrator Staff Member

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    That's a lovely fantasy, but there's probably 100,000 still active boats. Maybe several thousand that pay their dues to the ILCA.
     
  14. glasky

    glasky Member

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    can understand advantage of JCstrap on a Finn where mast at deck level somewhat constricted - but on most lasers the mast at deck level is free to move somewhat. In most cases the rig becomes very stable running by the Lee in a laser because of this. Unless you have a particularly narrow mast tube at deck level is it really needed / an advantage????
     

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