Is it really a one design class?

Discussion in 'Laser Class Politics' started by captainJack987, Feb 29, 2008.

  1. Ross B

    Ross B Guest

    Only class legal parts. If their not class legal, then neither is your boat!
     
  2. captainJack987

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    I have all legal parts, but I saw an ad for them and they were considerably cheaper.
     
  3. Ross B

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    but their not class legal, which defeats the purpose of one design
     
  4. dougreynolds10

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    I use all class legal and I don't know anyone who doesn't. I think thats more of a European problem because parts there are even more expensive, but don't take my word for it i wouldn't know.
     
  5. captainJack987

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    On rooster sailing .com they were adveritising replica parts saying the were cheeper and that they weren't class legal but good for pracrice. So only in europe its a problem?
     
  6. Ross B

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    No it's a big problem here too. I think it happens much less near me, in SoCal, just because of the amount of money that gets thrown around here. But it does happen a lot in the US.
    What it basically boils down to, is that if a shop can make and sail, for any class, legal or not, and make a profit, they will!
     
  7. captainJack987

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    True like an knockoff, I thought you were in Europe Ross.
     
  8. Ross B

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    Orange County (Mission Viejo), California
     
  9. Rob B

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    You can "practice" w/any gear you want. I use a non-class legal Intensity Sail for practice sailing so I don't wear out my $530.00 class sail.

    Just don't show up to the race course with your non-class legal practice gear.
     
  10. captainJack987

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    I have 2 older haarstick sails one is a practice sail and one is a racing sail. The new one has barely been used. Did Haarstick stop making laser sails.
     
  11. Rob B

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    Yes. A looooong time ago. I had one in '89-'91 or so. Some folks said they were better heavy air sails, but I never really liked mine. This was around the time the North laser sails came out with the "new numbers 3.8" sail and I thought they were a better material. At least they felt better to me.

    Either way you can race with the Harstick sail if you want.
     
  12. captainJack987

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    I checked the Haarstick website there still making laser sails apparently.
     
  13. Ross B

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    every sailmaker will make Laser sails, but they don't have a contract for them, and their not legal
     
  14. sk8ingsailor

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    Because when you look at it, It can get pretty boaring of you have long beats. Compare it to a star. a 2" difference in where the crew hikes can make a ENORMOUS difference. You are CONSTANTLY tuning the back stays to adjusting shift. If you dont have that backstay all the way in, your settings are off.

    Lasers, you really just get in and go. Its pretty mindless.
     
  15. sk8ingsailor

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    have you ever sailed a star?

    You can not seriously tell me that racing say a farr 40, finn, star, etc is not mindless.

    Compared to other boats, lasers are EASY!
     
  16. Ross B

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    Lasers are pretty tame, but not necessarily easy, their more about the tactics and boat handling. With Finns and Stars, you also get to learn different rig settings, and you have more controls, which makes life very nice.
     
  17. sk8ingsailor

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    Ha! GOD HAS SPOKEN!

    Thanks ross!
     
  18. Ross B

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    no worries
     
  19. captainJack987

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    How fast are finns and stars compared to lasers?
     
  20. sk8ingsailor

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    Id say they are both about as fast as a laser
     

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