Installing a Tiller Tamer, few questions...

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  1. Solamar

    Solamar New Member

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    I've decided that I really want a Tiller Tamer and have a few questions as to how people have installed them.

    I plan to install it under the tiller and run the lines back to the transom. On one side the rope will attach to a Harken stainless eyestrap, forward to the tiller, then back to a Seadog roller fairlead cleat.


    My question is what is the best method to attach the hardware to the rear transom area. I imagine the transom is hollow and probably thin on the inside liner. I don't like the idea of just screwing the hardware to the thin fiberglass...

    Any ideas? Maybe a hollow wall type anchor? Expanding rivets? Some super duper adhesive?

    Thanks in advance for any ideas!
     
  2. jeff95519

    jeff95519 New Member

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    Here's a couple quick photos of my Tiller Tamer, I used the screws that comes with it and it holds fine. It helps a lot if you sail single handed.

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  3. douga7002

    douga7002 New Member

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    What is the purpose of the tiller tamer?
     
  4. gregwcoats

    gregwcoats Member

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    To hold the tiller in a fixed position, while you do other things. Such as get a bottle of water,some to eat or trim the sails. And if you are on a long tack, it will kind of hold your course.
     
  5. jeff95519

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    It holds the tiller in position so when you sail single handed and you have to move forward in the boat to adjust the jib or other things that when the boat rocks from side to side the tiller and rudder don't move back and forth and a possibly you to capsize.
     
  6. Solamar

    Solamar New Member

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    Jeff, Thanks for the pictures.

    I imagine mounting the cleat on the gunwale like you did eliminates my issue with transom mounting the hardware. Although I'm starting to wonder if the transom is NOT hollow. I saw that the motor mounts are through bolted in the area that I'm thinking of using. Maybe there's some "beef" there to hold a screw?
     
  7. gregwcoats

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    On my 1987 model there is no "beef" in there, there is the outer hull and then about a one inch space before the inner "liner. I am talking about the stern of the boat.
     
  8. sailorlem

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    My "tiller tamer" is velcro on end of adjustable hiking stick and matching velcro on either or both gunwales. Another wrap on aft end of tiller holds hiking stick when not in use. No need for metal or plastic fitting on tiller to snag or poke.
     
  9. EddieB

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    This is what I use: a small length of shock cord made into a loop which is looped around the rear hiking strap. When you need a third hand to hold the tiller while you go forward, just loop the shock cord around the tiller. Cheap, effective and simple.
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  10. Jeremy Becker

    Jeremy Becker Camp Counsellor

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    I'm starting to wonder if the transom is NOT hollow. I saw that the motor mounts are through bolted in the area that I'm thinking of using. Maybe there's some "beef" there to hold a screw?[/quote]

    the area of the transom designed to hold the motor mount is reinforced at the factory. the rest of the transom is pretty hollow.
     
  11. rkrebill

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    I tried EddieB's shock cord solution (one of the replys below) last weekend. It works pretty well, but I find that a shok cord attached between the tiller (attached to a small line tied at point of tiller extension) and the Barney Post to be a bit better in holding a course as I go forward to set release the whisker pole. RK











     
  12. Solamar

    Solamar New Member

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    Thanks for all the great replys! If I hadn't already bought the hardware I'd try the velcro or bungee plan. Both sound like they would work well. I installed the transom hardware up high and was pleased to see some wood in the drill swarf. I used large expanding aluminum rivets and some adhesive caulk (to keep moisture out) and am quite pleased with how it turned out. I highly doubt anythings going to pull out of the transom.

    Will report back after I have a chance to get it on the water.
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  13. Bdh333

    Bdh333 New Member

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    All good ideas, I don't like to drill in the hull so I just put the traveler on the existing holes at the tran some with a bowline knots and then clip the ends of the tiller tamer line on two the bowline loops. Works fine.
    Barry
     
  14. jeff95519

    jeff95519 New Member

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    It looks good but it look like it's mounted a little far out on the tiller so that when you turn the tiller it will get a lot of slack. It should be mounted so that the arc is the same when you turn the tiller from side to side. I had to adjust my mounting point on my tiller for the same reason.
     
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