How much is a New Laser ???

Discussion in 'Laser Class Politics' started by Dr._Loser, Jun 20, 2008.

  1. Dr._Loser

    Dr._Loser From 3# World

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    GREAT LASER PODIUM !!!!!


    1º Mr. Paul Goodison,

    2º Vasilij ZBOGAR

    and 3º from Italy
    DiegoROMERO.com.ar !!!!


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    In London 2012, there will not be more South American Sailors, at last !!!!

    Mr. Alsogaray is a Top Ten Laser Sailor,
    But the most important is, as nothing will change, he is

    "THE LAST TOP TEN
    OLYMPIC SUDAKA LASER SAILOR
    OF THE HISTORY !!!!!"


    And surely he will sail for a first world country very soon !!!!

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    .....but........................always we have a "but"......

    I have bad news for you, "SWITZERLAND 180897"

    http://www.cesm.net/fr-laser-masters-2008-liste-des-preinscrits-152-49-smenu.html


    Dr. Loser :)

     
  2. Dr._Loser

    Dr._Loser From 3# World

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    Dear "SWITZERLAND 180897":

    Now you have no more excuses to have a meeting with ARG authorities !!!!!

    Mr. Charly Palombo (President of the ARG Laser Class) ,
    and Mr. Edy Branz (Stripper) , great people from ARG, good friends of mine, will be in Corsica next September for the Euro Masters !!!!!


    EURO MASTERS
    http://www.cesm.net/uk-welcome-at-cesm--1-menu.html


    I have A GREAT IDEA !!!!!
    YOU CAN MEET Mr. Palombo in Corsica

    and resolve this !!!!!!
    You have his personal e-mail, write him, please !!!!!!!


    And here you have the "BAD NEWS":

    I will be in Corsica too !!!!!!
    and without my wife !!!!!
    COOOOOOOOL MAN !!!
    I told her that I go to a very important Championship....
    ........and bla, bla, bla, bla.........GREAT, LOSER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    We know that you are a very competitive sailor.

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    ....but in Corsica, forget about ranking, forget about great level !!!!!!.............relax...........enjoy !!!!!!
    A nice place, wonderful women, Martini dry, Top Collins, german beer............YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

    Do not worry if you win again the wooden spoon like in this picture !!!!!!!

    This is me, dancing with my french friend "Margot"
    ...............WOWWWWW !!!


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    Margot lives in Corsica, has a lot of french funny friends !!!!!!!
    ......COOOOOOOOL MAN !!!

    We must finish with this idiot quarrel !!!!!
    .....we must smoke the peace pipe !!!
    ....it depend on you !!!!!

    You are "OUR PRESIDENT", you are a serious person.
    So, be honest with all T.L.F. , please answer this to us:

    We know that you are rich and you live at the very rich Switzerland, the richest county of the universe but:

    Would you pay u$s 11.400.- CASH
    for a Laser,
    living in a Sudaka Country ????

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    We hope you'll be at Semana de Buenos Aires (ARG),
    I'll be your host !!!!!!
    .......we have no legal boats, but no problem !!!!!!!!

    http://www.laserinternational.org/fixsa.htm

    Dr Loser :)

    P.D.: Please say nothing about all this to "The guy that never answers " ........he is so bored........
     
  3. Dr._Loser

    Dr._Loser From 3# World

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    Bonjour les amis !!!!
    Ils ont de bons amis ce jour-là la pratique Fracas!!!

    Wood morning my friends !!!!
    You must practic French !!!!

    While we keep waiting the
    I.L.C.A. - SUDAKA MEETING
    at CORSICA,


    Let me introduce you the ARG team:

    I'll let you know all about Mr. Charly Palombo and Mr. Edy Branz training for the Euro Masters 2008.


    Charly (Our dear ARG PRESIDENT)
    He is very competitive, but Charly must practic no sail so close to the buoy.

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    Edy ( the stipper )
    He is very creditable because he has three hernias, ruptures in his back, and he wants to be in the GUINNESS !!!!!!

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    DIEU BÉNISSE SUDAKAS !!!!!
    GOD BLESS YOU SUDAKAS !!!!!

    au revoir !!!!!
    bye bye !!!!!

    Dr. Loser :)

    P.S.:
    As this thread "HOW MUCH IS A NEW LASER?"
    has become so bored, enjoy this funny video:

    http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=8CC4plAJvuE&mode=related&search=
     
  4. Murphs

    Murphs New Member

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    Hahaha

    You are indeed a Crazy Man

    BIG BLUE FONT
     
  5. Dr._Loser

    Dr._Loser From 3# World

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    Bad news for good guys:

    Surely this post will be censured.

    I could not read yet what Hini says in page Nº7..........but I can imagin it.


    I have said a lot, I have spoken a lot.

    Now I'd like to read, we need to read,
    what the honest T.L.F. members think.


    Have you read Laser World Sept 2008 yet ?
    ...here you have it.

    (PDF of 2008 Laser World removed by Merrily because it is copyrighted information.)


    This year we have the last
    BUENOS AIRES WEEK 2008
    in ARGENTINE

    http://www.laserinternational.org/fixsa.htm


    but..................

    BUENOS AIRES WEEK 2009

    ARGENTINA


    IS NOT MORE IN THE AGENDA

    A big applause to "Tom and Jerry" and their council.

    Dr. Loser :mad:
     
  6. Dr._Loser

    Dr._Loser From 3# World

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    I have read the next Laser World Setember 2008.

    I can not believe what I have just read !!!!!

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    In the picture, why are you laughing Hini ???? (Dr. Loser is referring to the picture of Heini Wellman in the PDF that I deleted. Merrily)


    Dr. Loser
    ...................I need vacations..........
     
  7. Merrily

    Merrily Administrator Staff Member

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    Loser, you can't publish that PDF here. It is copyrighted information which you have to be a current ILCA member to view when it is new. I'll go out on a limb and quote the part I think is relevant to this thread.

    Quoted from Sept 2008 World Laser Sailor. Heini Wellmann, "Therefore, by buying a new or second hand Laser in one country and importing it into a country which is in the territory of another builder, you risk that the other builder takes legal action against you. This has already happened in the past: Lasers have been seized and detained by customs offices and have been returned to the country of origin at considerable cost to the person trying to import the boats.
    However, in the case of the Laser there is an additional agreement to be considered. Before being selected as Olympic Equipment, all builders, the class and ISAF have signed an agreement that defines the rights and duties of each party during the period the equipment is selected for the Games. In one part of the agreement it is specified that the trade mark, trade name or copyright holders and the manufacturers will allow any individual sailor and/or organisation to buy a boat ready to sail, spare parts and sails from any licensed builder/producer/dealer worldwide, provided that such purchase is for the exclusive use of the sailor or organisation and is not used in a business or trade or for any commercial activity."
     
  8. Dr._Loser

    Dr._Loser From 3# World

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    Dear Merrily:

    Is a pity that you only censure me.

    Since four month to today, I do not know what you think

    I have read only your first words, and

    YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN !!!


    ".....Loser, you can't publish that PDF here. It is copyrighted information which you have to be a current ILCA member to view when it is new........."



    In Sudakas Countries, we do not know a lot of thinks,
    we are very ignorants,
    so thanks to Mr. Bill Gates we have GOOGLE, Do you know GOOGLE ???
    .....is fantastic Merrily !!!


    Visit this links !!!!!!!

    http://www.laserinternational.org/__...LaserWorld.htm
    (I have replaced with a legal link. Merrily.)

    Merrily, you can do a lot for us, moreover censore me,
    you are a very important person.


    Dr. Loser:)

    P.S.:
    I'am wrong......YOU THINK AS HINI & "The man that never answer" think

    (Once again, I have deleted a copyrighted PDF from Loser, Merrily.)
     
  9. Merrily

    Merrily Administrator Staff Member

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    Loser, because someone else publishes the Laser World PDF doesn't make it legal to publish here. I'm tired of this and am closing the thread for now.

    Merrily
     
  10. Dr._Loser

    Dr._Loser From 3# World

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  11. Merrily

    Merrily Administrator Staff Member

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    OK, so it is public information. It still may not be legal to publish it here, but I'll let it stand until I hear otherwise.

    I'm still closing the thread because, YOU ARE SO RUDE!
     
  12. LooserLu

    LooserLu LooserLu

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    Che Chabon's,
    as the way is open again for discussion, to me, there are some very small open questions about the thoughts of Heini Wellmann's text, that he wrote at Laser World Magazine of September 2008.

    In a reply of Merrily at the open discussion section (http://www.laserforum.org/showpost.php?p=52019&postcount=11)
    She did wrote:

    Is it sure that Heini is talking to Alex or the Laserites of SA or is he speaking all of us? I say: It would not be an effective way, to response at the "Laser World". Heini does know very well the adresses and cellphone-numbers of the SA Laser Classes Chairmen, I think.
    And also, "IF" it would be such a response, why he not direct says it at the beginning ~ "Dear Laserites of South America, here are some words of the ILCA-President as a response to you...."? Heini does talk to every ILCA-Laserite, so he is talking also to me and you, I guess.

    Direct to Heini's text I have some very small questions:

    - Are all Lasers really "equal"??? {-> ...search this forum for the (many) answer(s)...}

    - WHO is the actual responsible "Out of the box boatbuilder" that provides the trademark "The Laser" (as a sailing dinghy) at South America?

    {BTW: From former threads at TLF and other websides at the internet we all know: "LaserPerformance Ltd. Europe" and "LaserPerformance Inc. USA (former: Vanguard Inc.)" are owned by "Gavel Securities Ltd./Inc."at Banbury/UK.}

    - Who is actually and in future officially "Laser-Direct"-Shop for the Countries of South America (SA)?

    - If there is no official "Laser-Direct"-Shop in the moment at SA: Who is permitted to import boats to SA (not only for privat use, but to resell those Laser's and Laser-Parts, during there is no official Laser-Direct"-Shop)?

    - What, in the moment, does do ILCA (/ILCA office) for SA, to reorganize the import of Lasers and its Laserparts?- And: Is anyone of the district-officers of SA involved in that process / and who is that person?

    - If SA "sudakas" buy boats for example here: http://www.psjpn.co.jp/ , does the customs of the SA-countries have to deny the import and send back the boats to Japan? and: Who of official "out of the box boatbuilders" and "trademark holders" will punish the people that not are permitted to import classlegal Laser to SA?

    - What is about all the sellers and customers, that offer or buy their Laserparts and 2nd-hand Laser-boats at and parts f.e. "Ebay".xyz. Do they now all have to be afraid, to get a letter of the advocates of their related "Out of the box boatbuilder" in future?

    Chau Chabon's
    LooserLu
     
  13. Rob B

    Rob B Active Member

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    Well put Lu!
     
  14. Rob B

    Rob B Active Member

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    Has Dr. Loser been sent on "vacation" from the forum?
     
  15. fracisco

    fracisco New Member

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    I hope not. I like his style and determination to keep the Laser from completely dying on the vine in South America. It is a damn shame that the continent that produced Robert Scheidt does not have its own builder, and is at the whim of the increasing monopoly of Laser Performance.
     
  16. Merrily

    Merrily Administrator Staff Member

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    Dr. Loser has not been banned.
     
  17. Dr._Loser

    Dr._Loser From 3# World

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    Dear members of T.L.F.:

    Someone has told me that "big and blue" font is not sirious, is not formal style.

    I WILL NOT WRITE after the Euro Masters 2008.

    Mr Carlos Palombo (ARG Laser Class President, and he was elected as South America Vice-Chairman), he will be at Corsica to be part of that important Championship.

    We hope, that the PRESIDENT OF THE I.L.C.A. meet him, NOT TO RESOLVE THIS BIG PROBLEM, but at least to talk to him.
    They must be friends, they must work together.

    Surely they think different, but they MUST HAVE A MEETING AT CORSICA.

    All the best,
    and excuse if I am rude.

    Alex




    or better Dr Loser :)
     
  18. mlemieux1978

    mlemieux1978 New Member

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    Does anyone know why the builder went under in SA? This seems to be the heart of the matter. Did they go completely out of business or did they just not get enough orders to pay for their licensing?
     
  19. Merrily

    Merrily Administrator Staff Member

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    OK, now that is a good question. And will there be enough orders in future for another builder? And if there's not a builder in SA, will a builder on another continent buy the license and ship boats there?
     
  20. Rob B

    Rob B Active Member

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    All good stuff. Keep it coming....Tracy, do you have any insight on this?
     

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