Hot tops

Discussion in 'Laser Talk' started by seththesailor, Sep 20, 2009.

  1. seththesailor

    seththesailor New Member

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    Hi everyone!

    I have been looking at hottops lately and would like everyone's opinions on what to get. I have been looking at zhik superwarm top and the SEA ultra warm top to wear underneath my spray gear in really cold weather. Any likes, dislikes, or suggestions? how warm are these things, and can they be worn effectively under a spray top? what water/ air temps do you think this setup would be warm in?

    thanks for your input
     
  2. Krycek

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    I just bought a Rooster one. I really like it. I live in Rhode Island and I'll probably wear it all the way into january until I switch into my dry suit.
     
  3. Sailorchick

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    I've got the SEA Hot top and the SEA Winter Hot top. I love them, keep me nice and warm and toasty all year round.
     
  4. wessel

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  5. WestCoast

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    I use the SEA Ultra Warm in a lot of conditions and I really like it. I think it's a pretty good bang for your buck at $115.

    The Zhik super warm is a bit thicker and warmer, so they are slightly different.

    Both have a water repellent outer shell which is really slick
     
  6. wessel

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    how thick is the SEA Ultra-Warm?
     
  7. Kratos

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    Zhik all the way.

    The Titanium or the Micro Fleece.
     
  8. gordo

    gordo New Member

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    i got the zhik superwarm top and when i wear it i dont usually wear a splash top on top of it. im personally a big fan of the zhik stuff you cant go wrong
     
  9. Sailorchick

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    Personally think the Zhik stuff is very overrated and expensive but thats my opinion. Despite have the SEA Winter Top I have no idea how thick it is. Its warm, comfy and keeps me nice and toasty when sailing. I'm very happy with it.
     
  10. Kratos

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    Do you have any Zhik gear to base that on?

    I've put a lot of use on the Micro Fleece top and it still looks brand new.

    The prices I paid weren't that bad either.
     
  11. Sailorchick

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    Not bought any, just had a good look at them at several boat shows. The price is always a lot higher than every other make over here and I can't see anything in the kit to justify it. Looks to me like paying for a name. Just my opinion.
     
  12. Kratos

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    Which you're entitled to. I'm not sure how much they cost over there, but wither way, I can attest to the great quality and performance.

    Quite the same with Rooster being super expensive over here. I've never seen anything to justify Rooster. Looks to me like paying for a name. Just my opinion.

    You "pay for the name" for everything, or else it would all cost a fraction of the price. A pair of shoes costs what, $2 to manufacture and then are sold for $200?
     
  13. Sailorchick

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    And there's your issue, I won't pay for a name. If I can get a top that is just as good (or even better) than another make, for less, then I'll choose that one.

    I've also never spent £200 on shoes, that would be obscene! :)
     
  14. Kratos

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    But how do you know unless you've used both?

    My point was, you pay for a name, technically, no matter what you buy.

    When I purchased my first SEA rash guard and hiking pants, they were obscenely expensive.

    Now, the rash guard can be bought for about a third of the price I payed and the hiking pants are like $170.

    What the hell was I paying for back then? A big, brand new flashy gear company, put out by Brendan Casey himself! Well, Zhik came along, with better products, and now they're top dog. Hence they being more expensive, and SEA prices going down. The law of demand applies.

    Also, I deal in dollars, not pounds.
     
  15. MasterMike

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    As an alternative, there is a long-established company based in Idaho that serves the whitewater kayak and rafting crowd. They make a wide range of reasonably-priced, warm / dry gear that is essentially the same stuff we are buying from high end sailing suppliers.

    nrsweb.net 800.635.5202

    (I like my Rooster stuff a lot, but I won some of it so cost wasn't a factor.)
     
  16. seththesailor

    seththesailor New Member

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    Thanks for the input everyone. I think I'm leaning towards getting the SEA top, mainly because of the lower price. I am also thinking of getting the skiff pants that go with it. has anybody tried those? I've heard that they are just as warm or warmer than wetsuit bottoms, but I am a little worried about durability. any thoughts?

    Thanks
     
  17. mjbhawg

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    ROOSTER all the way I have their gloves, hot top and fleese.
     
  18. nesdog

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    OP asked for temp ranges also. Being in Socal, I don't need a super warm kit but would like to hear this info so I could buy accordingly. I've got wetsuits and a drysuit.
     
  19. wessel

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    I'm a new sailor and would like to know if it really is true that you can sail in a snowfall without a drysuit.
     
  20. Kratos

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    Depends on the temperature and what gear you have.

    That was kind of a terrible question...
     

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