Homemade Tiller

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  1. parkpark

    parkpark New Member

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    I was thinking of making a tiller and extension for the laser over my week off. If you have any tips, ideas, or opinions they would be great. Thanks
     
  2. 3nbellc

    3nbellc New Member

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    You can use a fishing rod as a carbon tiller extension. Buy a reasonable size pole and cut it down, works a treat.
     
  3. Teem

    Teem New Member

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    I have made several, partly because kids like to leave them on the dock after an afternoon of sailing. For materials it depends on what's local. Here in the US Southwest, I find wood or aluminum hockey sticks for the tiller, and graphite or carbon fiber golf club shafts for the extension, all for a dollar or two at the local thrift store. Depending on your geography, you might have better luck with ski poles, fishing rods, or broom handles. The hockey sticks are often laminated wood and exactly one inch wide, and the golf clubs already have a nice rubber grip. I had no luck with DIY universals, so I get the cheap universal from Intensity, and the clamcleat, and use a two inch long piece of half-inch diameter aluminum tube epoxied to the end of the shaft. I use a small screw to hold the universal to the aluminum until I like it enough to make permanent. I like to have a couple tiller options because I need a short one when I sit on or near the back deck and my passenger is way up front. When I take out two kids, I use a short tiller with no extension, as one of us functions as a dedicated helmsman.

    Speaking of thrift stores, you also might try aluminum crutches, or even the wooden ones. They might have the right kind of bend in them to get over the traveler cleat. And if you can find an aluminum walking cane, they often are adjustable, like the crutches are, so I may try that next time.

    Please keep in mind that you don't want anything too strong, because you want it to break or flex if there's a mishap. I came up from a violent deathroll once and had a huge leg bruise from getting twisted up in the tiller extension because I tried to stay dry.

    You did ask for ideas and opinions, right?
     
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  4. Elessar

    Elessar Member

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    I would also like some opinions about this.
    But I only want to make a low profile tiller because I always have a problem with my traveller block getting caught on it during tacks and gybes.
    It would be much appreciated if you could suggest what materials I should use and how to fit the rudder insert onto these materials.
     
  5. Erik

    Erik New Member

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    Broken cross-country skipole as tiller extension. Great way to recycle things.
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  6. parkpark

    parkpark New Member

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    how would i go about making a tiller to fit in the rudder
     
  7. 49208

    49208 Tentmaker

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    It would help to know what your objectives are (I want to learn about using laminates/composites or just want to make a tiller for hacking around etc), and your budget. No point in telling you to use carbon fiber if your budget is $30 and you don't know how to create a laminate
     
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  8. parkpark

    parkpark New Member

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    I would probably use wood. Should I just carve to to the right dimentions?
     
  9. 49208

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    Wood - the hockey stick suggestion above is what many have used - IIRC, one of the width/height dimensions is a perfect match for the width of the rudder head (I believe 1") The wood used in hockey sticks is also very stiff which is what you want for a tiller.

    If the width/height needs to be trimmed down, use a sander, don't carve. If it has to be built up for a tighter fit, use a thickened epoxy, (either blend your own or something like Marine-Tex)

    Lacrosse sticks (aluminum and occasionally more exotic such as titanium and carbon fiber) is another potential source, usually free if you find someone with cast-offs
     
  10. Kevin Harm

    Kevin Harm New Member

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    Hey all, I got a boat this week w/o the tiller... I have the rudder but am unsure as to how it really fits into the rudder "head/casting." Is it drilled in or locknuts or what the heck? Any pics anyone may have would help as I can't see from the photos of Laser online. K
     
  11. lasersailer148085

    lasersailer148085 Member

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    is there any way to use a plastic tiller end and fit it onto a hockey stick?
     
  12. 49208

    49208 Tentmaker

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    The plastic end fits over a round shape, which I believe is 1" or just under. With some work (or a lathe) you could shape the end of the hockey stick to fit (and use some thickened epoxy to fill any gaps)
     
  13. Gary Vagabond

    Gary Vagabond New Member

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    I used an old window washer handle and a large key ring. Cheap and works fine.

    DYI tiller extension homemade
     

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