Frostbitting

Discussion in 'Laser Talk' started by Goonie, Oct 22, 2002.

  1. kwilson

    kwilson New Member

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    Tis true......the air temp -wind chill is 21 and the water temp is 36. I'm sure when I pull myself out of the drink in the middle of the hudson it'll feel like a spring day.... :) :) :)
     
  2. phantomdarkness

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    welcome back kwilson :)

    that kinda sucks :)
     
  3. kwilson

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    Thanks!!!!

    Was in Turks for a month.....almost didn't come back. Yesterday it was 93.....white powder sand clear warm water.....all sun all day.....sailing the reef in 12 15 knot offshore....or commonly known as weather rail island sailing........paradise. I come home and it's a frozen wasteland......awesome. :) :)

    Welcome me back boys ....it's miller time...!!!! :) :)
     
  4. will162878

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    Sounds like a much nicer place to sail...
     
  5. macwas16

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    Where is Turks??
     
  6. kwilson

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    About 50 miles east of cuba.........were the men are sparse and the women are.....naked. :)
     
  7. macwas16

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    lol. sounds like great......umm...sailing!
     
  8. laser161116

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    the good old georgia boys went out and froze last weekend. when we got in, there was ice on our decks and our stopper knots froze together. brrrrrrrrrrr!
    i feel bad for everybody up north where frozen lines is the norm
     
  9. will162878

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    Forzen lines in salt water can wreck some modern ropes. Obviously some are made to withstand it but some will not - choose lines carefully if you sail in freezing conditions...
     
  10. laser161116

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    we were on a lake. I've actually never sailed on the ocean
     
  11. will162878

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    I think that freezing lake water is fine on ropes - its the salt that wrecks some ropes when water freezes inside the fibres. (I think - I'm not entirely sure though...)
     
  12. will162878

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    Correction: it should be "in between" fibres, not "inside" fibres...
     
  13. laser161116

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    i can see how that would hurt. i've herd of rock climbing ropes doing the same thing with dirt.
     
  14. will162878

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    Ocean sailors will never get that freezing lines problem.
    If you haven't sailed on the sea, you should try it - it adds a whole new dimension to laser sailing. (Unless your lake is big enough to have large waves and tides...)
     
  15. laser161116

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    Do motor boat waves (coming from all directions) count as waves?
     
  16. macwas16

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    lol. not exactly. ocean waves are much different as you can imagine and so is sailing on an ocean. I train on a lake but most of our races are on the ocean. On the ocean, tides, currents, and winds are all factors not experienced as much on a lake. Out there, the waves all come from the same dirrection which is mostly from the direction the wind is coming from. This is like a double force that takes strategy to excel on. There is nothing like sailing a laser our on an ocean. If you love the point of sail you are on you most likely can stay on that tack for miles and miles. (if you want to, that is.) I love sailing on the ocean, it makes lakes seem so lame and fortifying.
     
  17. laser161116

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    are there as many little shifts on the ocean. there are tons on lakes.
     
  18. will162878

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    That completely depends on the area and wind direction. Generally, sailing near the coast, with an offshore wind, you will experience an oscillating shift upwind. Frontal systems will cause permanent shifts, on the ocean, these happen a lot faster than inland. You get more shifts closer to the shore but generally, not as many little shifts. On an ocean, you don't tack on the smallest shifts, unlike inland racing, because other factors like tide and waves also have a large priority in strategical thinking.

    Ocean water movements add another 2 dimensions to racing that you always have to think about when considering which way to go.
     
  19. laser161116

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    Sorry, kind of off the subject. But...last week at frostbite there was VERY light air. All you smaller sailors - don't you hate it when it always blows and you have to get walked on by the full rigs, but then...it gets light one day (yes, I'm light I'm gonna do good) and everybody complains about it and doesn't go out. I guess it could work reversly for bigger people.
     
  20. will162878

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    Light winds offer some really good sailing if you can put up without the planing for an hour...
     

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