Continuing rigging saga

Discussion in 'Capri/Catalina 14 Talk' started by traderbob_nc, Apr 22, 2016.

  1. traderbob_nc

    traderbob_nc New Member

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    So the saga continues. You may have read my posts about rehabbing a 1990 Capri I bought in July 2015. I've been focusing most of my effort on figuring out how to step the mast single handed. I'm slowly getting her ready to splash. I've found out I was missing a block on the Traveler and Boom Vang and Cunningham. Pieces and parts I didn't know I was missing.

    The latest in the saga has been the replacement of the old furling jib. The old jib was thread bare from so many years in the sun. Does anybody have an idea for a sock to put on the jib. More importantly, I've been trying to figure out how to attach the old furling hardware to the new jib. I understand how the swivel attaches at the top of the jib. My questions have been focusing on how the drum attaches at the foot. Greg (on this site) has been helping me... with pictures of his furling jib... and suggestions about how to rig it. My old jib doesn't quite reach from the Mast to the bracket on the bow, so I was thinking I'm missing something - maybe a shackle? I'm also confused by the rope that feeds the drum to allow the furling. I was thinking there must be some tension or spring in the drum that allows the drum to furl and unfurl. But I understand it's all mechanical and there is no tension on the drum.
    I found a tech doc on the Harken website with some information about rigging - but no pictures :>( just a sketchy diagram.
    I'm putting this out here, so if there is anyone near Charlotte NC, that can help piece this puzzle together, and get this neophyte out on the lake, it would be much appreciated. I had actually found a guy in Charleston SC that offered to help me rig her and see what else I might be missing, but we haven't been able to meet up.
     

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    More pictures of what I'm dealing with
     

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  4. Karl R. Wurst

    Karl R. Wurst New Member

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    I made a jib sock two years ago from this kit: Sleeve Furling Cover Kit 15' - 21' Luff - Surlast Fabric

    It was pretty easy to make on my regular sewing machine (sew slowly and use a needle intended for heavy fabric - like denim.) I have sewed before, but not "canvas" and this was the first zipper I've installed.

    I cut the fabric differently than suggested, because I wanted the remaining material to be of a more useful size. I'm hoping to use the remainder for a cuddy cover/pocket, as well as a tiller cover.
     
  5. traderbob_nc

    traderbob_nc New Member

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    Cool! Thanks for the suggestion and the link.
    b.l.
     
  6. woodbark

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    traderbob_nc, my apology if you have already seen this diagram - Go to the top of this page and click on the "C14 Handbook" and open it up. Once you are in, go to page 17 for a diagram of the complete diagram of the Jib furling assembly and how it is assembled.
     
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    I managed to pull the diagram out as an image with snipping tool (amazing what is possible with a user friendly app)

    Capri Furling Jib.PNG
     
  8. fhhuber

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    Why does it matter which way you roll it?
     
  9. woodbark

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    I don't use a furler on mine but to hazard a guess - Probably due to the way the the factory has the "furling line" hooked up to the spindle inside the drum!
     
  10. Karl R. Wurst

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    Mine rolls up counter-clockwise (looking at the top of the drum).
     
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  11. Karl R. Wurst

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    And, I just noticed that it says that on the diagram in the notes (note 4))
     
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  12. stansquatch

    stansquatch 1990 Catalina Capri 14.2 - Hull #3473

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    I purchased my first sailboat yesterday and it's the a 1990 Catalina Capri 14.2. Loving finding this information listed on this site! It has helped me a ton...looking to get a mainsail cover. Is there an easy spot to order one online? Thanx!
     
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    Until you find/make a proper cover... use a cheap tarp. Better to look a bit redneck than to sun rot the sail.
     
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  14. woodbark

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    :) Congratulations on your purchase! .... was it private or dealer purchase? ... care to mention what shape it's in? .... and whether it has a Furling Jib? ... and did you get a motor with the deal?
     
  15. stansquatch

    stansquatch 1990 Catalina Capri 14.2 - Hull #3473

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    Hi Woodbark! I would give it a fair rating. It needs some paint and light fiberglass work, new shrouds lines etc. but over all it's good. You could sail it right now! I had been hunting craigslist for quite a while and found this one out on a small lake about 120 miles from my home harbor. It did not come with a trailer so I had to borrow one but had a smooth journey each way fortunately. No motor, no roller furling. But for $600, it was a very fair price. I'll have the topsides and bottom painted up in no time and ripping around.I have a spot to keep it at a local marina so I'll have plenty of opportunity to use it.
     
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  16. woodbark

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    Sounds like a great buy! With a bit of TLC the plan is a go for a great summer of sailing! Cheers :)
    Oh! do treat us with a photo after she's all spruced up ;)
     
  17. traderbob_nc

    traderbob_nc New Member

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    @woodbark Thanks for the suggestion. I had already tried to look at the diagram. It's probably just me, but I'm more comfortable seeing a photograph than a drawing. So, looking at the drawing, wasn't real helpful to me. The drawing also doesn't mention the wire I see attached to the the loop that attaches to the furler (see IMG_0022). The new jib doesn't have any wires protruding (see IMG_0019) so that's another mystery. Then there is the problem where the jib was just an inch or two short of being able to stretch and attach to the bracket on the bow. The diagram you mentioned doesn't show any additional shackles there, so that leaves me wondering, if the Mast is stepped and the shrouds are set correctly.
    I still get the feeling it shouldn't be this hard to rig her. Perhaps I am complicating it too much.
     
  18. woodbark

    woodbark Member

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    traderbob_nc, no apologies needed, you are in good company ;)

    Looking at your photos it would appear that your old jib is not a furling jib but just a regular jib made to work as a furling jib thus, the bundle of scrappy wire. Your new jib is designed to attach directly to the furler as the diagram shows, (also in the photo below). Also, with the new Jib you will need all of the rigging attachments (shown in the "detail" on the right side of the diagram) - swivel, wire pennant and shroud adjuster. If after assembling all of these and you are still short, it could mean that the shrouds have been shortened or the shroud adjuster is missing all together. If there is a shroud adjuster, you would want to make sure the shrouds are shackled at the top hole - as in the photo below. furling jib.PNG
     
  19. woodbark

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    This is the what the actual Pennant, Swivel & Shroud Adjuster assembly looks like ... (did not see this in your group of photos)

    a pennant assembly.jpg
     

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