Be a Champion in South America !!!!

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  1. Dr._Loser

    Dr._Loser From 3# World

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    Hi BOLUDO !!!!!

    A lot of you have asked me several times about teaching more ARGENTINIAN SLANG.
    This is one very important,
    the word "CHE" means "YOU".

    For example:
    I'm eating a "CHORIPAN"

    (original argentinian sandwich) with
    "CHIMICHURRI" (original sauce)

    So in ARG say with strog voice to your waiter:

    "CHE BOLUDO, UN CHORIPAN CON CHIMICHURRI"
    .....teast it................... is the best !!!!!



    Loser, go to work !!!!


    INTERNATIONAL CONTEST
    "ALL THE SECRETS
    TO BE FASTER THAN
    ROBERT SCHEIDT"

    an the winner is ...................................

    Göran from (SWE) !!!!!!

    Göran you have won an

    I.L.C.A.S.A.
    AUTHORIZED (HOMOLOGATED) BOAT
    Builded by I.F.B. (illegal Factory Boats)

    from Banana Republic !!!!

    Characteristics:
    *HULLS Weight (HW): 30 Kg !!!!........COOL MAN !!!!!!
    *Power-Vang (with the can of beans, of course)
    *ELVSTROM Sails



    Mr. Göran:
    To send you your boat, let's see if your address is correct:


    Göran PETERSSON (SWE)
    I.S.A.F.
    P R E S I D E N T


    LUCKY GUY !!!!!!

    PHOTO link:
    http://www.geocities.com/drloser21/Petersson1.jpg



    NEXT ISSUE
    "THE ROBERT SCHEIDT'S SECRET "

    All the best
    Dr Loser
     
  2. jotag

    jotag Member

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    Hello everyone:
    I´d like to tell you some comments about this topic:
    Argentina has one of the most important optimist flot in the world. Our childrens have won several world championship and each local race join not less than 300 boat in the water all weeks.
    I´m 57 years old and race as great master here and in the master class we always have 70 boat each race.
    Although we have a Athens silver medallist Diego Romero and the actually world´s vice champion Julio Alsogaray, the senior class is going down here.
    In 4.7 just race 10 competitors. It must be the natural way to continue sailing.
    The laser class is so sucessful because it allows people who leave optimist, to sail with the same boat forever.
    OK, then why the chain is been broken here? Simply because the prices and the supplies of parts.
    Here you can find builders who make dinghy boats and export it all over the world and perfectly they could make laser boats at least at the same quality and much less than a half of price.
    Why then ILCa people don´t allow them to make the boats?
    The answer is because they privilege the business over the sport, and all the latinamerican laser sailors will sail in others class in the future.
    With such a discriminatory politics, they and we, have the risk that the authority of the games get out the class of the olimpics games and they are going to give boats as a gift.
    I wish people who make the rules give us the oportunity of demonstrate that here we can do it. And perhaps an argentine builder can supply boats to South America.
    Have fun and be happy.
    Jotag
     
  3. Ross B

    Ross B Guest

    jotag, that was the first sensible post on this thread
     
  4. Merrily

    Merrily Administrator Staff Member

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    Again, the ILCA is not in charge of the builders. Only the builders have the rights to make the boats, since they have bought the license to do so from the inventors. The ILCA does not make boats. It doesn't authorize the builders. It is only an association that guides the sailing of them and limited changes of them, and it is an association primarily of volunteers elected by members, by "us."
     
  5. Dr._Loser

    Dr._Loser From 3# World

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    Merrily
    The ILCA is not............
    The ILCA does not.......


    If the ILCA is not close to each Laser Sailor,
    If the ILCA do not know our problems,
    If the ILCA do not defend all of us of Monopoly,

    we are in big troubles........

    Dr Loser

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  6. Dr._Loser

    Dr._Loser From 3# World

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    Mr. Heini Wellmann
    Mr. Jeff Martin


    Mr. Carlos Fanucchi (BRA)
    Mr. Carlos Palombo (ARG)
    ALL THE WORLD COUNCIL MEMBERSHIP

    and ALL THE MEMBERS OF T.L.F.

    Forgive me.
    Excuses, this is what ask for all of you.


    Please understand me, what I wanted to do, was to fight for the LASER CLASS with the weapons I have, like a common guy.

    It was not a personal attack against anybody.

    I'm so proud of my President, Mr. Carlos Palombo.
    I'm so proud of Mr. Fanucchi.
    I'm so proud of Laser sails with the "ARG".
    I'm so proud of our web-site
    www.laserarg.com


    Mr. Heini Wellmann
    Mr. Jeff Martin

    It's a Honor to belong to this Class.

    I ask you for figth for the future of the class, for all of our friends and for those,like my friend Eduardo Feijoo, who have spent her best sailing days with lasers sailors.
    Our dear friend Eduardo Feijoo, a saturday went to sail with his blue laser,and took off to the stars................
    Every year this Chamionship is in his honor.
    http://www.navigare.com.ar/Camp_Eduardo_Feijoo/index.htm

    All the best for all of you

    Dr Loser

    P.D.:
    I have sent this e-mail to the Laser Class Authorities
    with my real identity and information to let them know who I am.
     
  7. jotag

    jotag Member

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    Dear Dr Loser:
    Let me disagree with you. I´m not proud of anybody. They aren't people who take care of the class.
    Two of my daughters sail. One in optimist and the other is just begining to sail in 4.7 laser boat because I´ve insist her to leave optimist.
    Can you tell me how can I tell her now that leave laser because I can't support anymore ?. You know there are no new boat here to buy, and in the future we can spend the money that we don´t have, in order to sail in this class?. We must pay for an used boat 10 year age, more than 5000 U$S?. And you are proud of the guys who fix that politics?.
    I believe you are wrong.
    I believe that if the things don´t change quickly, all the people who are being afected with such a politic, should join and go together to the ISAF first, and then even at the Intenational Olimpic Comitee and talk about the laser class has became monopolic. They will have the last word.
    In a matter of fact, I love sailing, i like to sail dinghy boats and I like to sail in laser class, in that order. Perhaps we have to give up one of the three loves in the future.
    We aren´t powerful as they are, but we are a lot of people.
    Best regards.
    Jotag:mad:
     
  8. fracisco

    fracisco New Member

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    Why did the past Laser builder have its license taken away?
     
  9. Dr._Loser

    Dr._Loser From 3# World

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    IN BLUE FOR SUDAKAS


    Hey guys !!!!!!
    This si becoming very aggressive !!!!


    Amigos !!!!
    Esto se pone muy agresivo !!!!!!

    So relax, drink an "ACTIVIA" (AN ARGENTINIAN DRINK) AND ENJOY MUSIC!!!!

    Entonces, relajate, bebete un Activia (bebida Argentina)
    Y DISFRUTA DE LA MUSICA !!!!!

    The GREAT Phill Collins singing
    "I Cannot Believe It's True"

    El GRAN Phill Collins cantando
    " No puedo cree que ésto sea verdad"


    I like when the vocal choir says.....
    "There is no replay at all"

    A mi me gusta cuando el coro vocal dice:
    "NO HAY NINGUNA RESPUESTA "

    Videolink:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGnDRpFBYWA&feature=related


    ....is in this song ????...........
    I LOVE Phill !!!!!
    When I am without the Dr. mask I seem Phill !!!!


    ...es en ésta canción ????........
    YO AMO a Phill !!!!!
    Cuando me saco el barbijo de Dr, me parezco bastante a él !!!!!

    "I Cannot Believe It's True"
    "There is no replay at all"


    "NO PUEDO CREER QUE SEA CIERTO"
    "NO HAY NINGUNA RESPUESTA"




     
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    Dr._Loser From 3# World

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    EN AZUL PARA GRONCHOS

    And here we have

    y AQUI TENEMOS

    the most important LASER SAILOR OF THE BARRANCAS
    "ROMULITO"

    El mas importante laserista del Barrancas
    "ROMULITO"

    Singin (in green)
    "I DO NOT TOUCH YOU, I'AM TROLO"
    "NO TE TOCO, SOY TROLO"


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    Dr._Loser From 3# World

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    What a voice !!!!!
    Cranberries Band


    I like this part best

    Baby I believe what you say
    Baby I believe your promise
    Baby hold on to your promises



    All the promises we made.....
    All the promises you broke.....


    QUE VOZ !!!
    El grupo Cranberrys

    Esta parte es la que más me gusta

    Creo en lo que dices
    Creo en tus promesas
    Manten lo que prometes


    Todas las promesas que hiciste
    Todas las rompiste


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYtT3TujD7o

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  12. Dr._Loser

    Dr._Loser From 3# World

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    IN BLUE FOR CABECITAS NEGRAS
    EN AZUL PARA LOS CHETOS DE RECOLETA



    "I Cannot Believe It's True"
    "There is no replay at all"


    "NO PUEDO CREER QUE SEA CIERTO"
    "NO HAY NINGUNA RESPUESTA"


    Where are the Laser World Champs ????
    Where are the Laser Olimpics ???
    Wher are the MEMBERS of T.L.F. ????


    Dónde están los campeones del mundo????
    Los Olimpicos????
    Los miembros de éste foro ?????


    This matter is not important to discuss ???

    Este tema no es importante para discutir ???

    I have sent a"Private Message" to these ACTIVE MEMBERS OF "T.L.F. THE LASER FORUM".......
    ........that NEVER ANSWER MY CUESTION !!!!!!!!

    Les he enviado un "Mensaje Privado" a estos ACTIVOS MIEMBROS DEL "TLF" "THE LASER FORUM"
    ....y nunca respondieron mi pregunta !!!!!


    This was the text of the P.M.:

    Este fue el texto del mensaje privado:

    What do you think about:
    "Be a Champion in South America ???"


    Qué piensas del tema:
    "Sea un Campeón en Sud América"


    I have made four categories by posted messages :

    Yo hice cuatro categorías en función de número de mensajes enviados en éste foro:

    T.L.F. MEMBER...................................Posts

    Nombre del Miembro del Foro............Cantidad de mensajes subidos al foro

    1º)
    49208...............................1.609
    Ross B..............................1.365
    gouvernail.........................1.322


    2º)
    Bradley...............................550 (Administrator)


    3º)
    vtgent49................................405
    SFBayLaser ...........................405
    Deimos.................................394
    sailchris.................................344
    sk8ingsailor............................312
    Wavedancer...........................274
    torrid....................................254
    bjmoose................................229
    Josef.....................................155
    knot_moving..........................145


    4º)
    stick.....................................100
    Laser of the Corn.....................100
    ynolds10..................................87


    While we keep waiting an answer for somebody,
    enjoy this music with me!!!!!!!

    .....you know I am a bad "DJ" !!!

    Mientras seguimos esperando la respuesta de alguien,
    disfrutemos ésta música !!!! ....saben que soy un mal Disc Jockey !!!


    Best regards
    Un beso en el orto.

    Dr Loser

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9uo16khk90&feature=related
     
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    Dr._Loser From 3# World

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    Forgive me Dear Ross B
    You are a BRAVE GUY !!!


    Dr Loser
     
  14. Merrily

    Merrily Administrator Staff Member

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    Dr Loser,

    You can't force people to care or to answer your questions. You've got so much going on in your posts, I'm not sure they know what you are asking, anyway. Only from a private message do I see that your primary concern is that the price of boats has recently doubled in South America. I think that we can all agree that that is terrible, but we don't know why any more than you apparently do. It is the builders who are responsible and what they are willing to see that the market will bear. It does make me wonder if that is what we will see next in North America. If so, I'm certain that far fewer boats will be sold.

    You are going to have to stop with the counting of posts to see who frequents here and demanding that they answer. You are going about this the wrong way.
     
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    Hello:I´m greated surprised for the number of people who visit that forum.I´m surprised too, for the number of private mail I´ve received for my post here, but it would be better that this people that mail me, do it in the forum without being ashamed.I want to thanks them, but all people of the forum would apreciate your opinions and you can contribute to solve these problems. Best regards.jotag
     
  16. Chainsaw

    Chainsaw Brmmm Brmmm

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    Gidday Dr.Loser,

    I looked at the pics you posted and you SA guys a great sailors! From what I understand of the things you say, no one can maintain their boat and remain class legal without travelling overseas to an ILCA event? Not much you can do about the parts/business side except supply yourselves with the parts you need via the internet from international sources: either from the USA or from NZ or Australia. Clearly you have nothing to lose if the ILCA has turned their back on you. Organise your own races, and create your own hierachy while retaining class legal parts and rules and send your best overseas to ILCA events. Only the ILCA will lose in this deal. Need new boats? Send a representative overseas to load a container after a Worlds event with used boats and ship it home. Yes it requires money and effort, but you aren't all on the bones of your ass!

    One more thing. Tell this guy, and bloke in the photo below him:

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    the next time this happens, push the tiller away from him, rather than pulling it towards him and the boat will self correct and not go into a death roll.

    Best of luck.
     
  17. captainJack987

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    Hay dr.l i respond to ur private messages all the time weres my spot on the list??
     
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    Dr._Loser From 3# World

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    Dear captainJack987:
    You ALWAYS respond to my private messagesCap and I estimate it a lot.
    Probably I write badly in English, so forgive me.


    I have sent a"Private Message" to these ACTIVE MEMBERS OF "T.L.F. THE LASER FORUM".......

    The list is for those
    ........that HAVE NEVER ANSWERED MY CUESTION....

    ..QUESTION......YOU SEE ???
     
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    Dr._Loser From 3# World

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    Gidday Chainsaw
    ........what "Gidday"means ????...send me a P.M.


    I looked at the pics you posted and you SA guys a great sailors!
    ...yes.. great level !!!!

    From what I understand of the things you say, no one can maintain their boat
    and remain class legal without travelling overseas to an ILCA event?

    We do not have spear parts nor boats any more, except from US.
    A group went to ROSES, 12 ARG SAILORS ...


    Not much you can do about the parts/business side except supply yourselves with the parts you need via
    the internet from international sources: either from the USA or from NZ or Australia..

    ...in this way they are much more expensive for us !

    Clearly you have nothing to lose if the ILCA has turned their back on you.
    We do not think this way.......

    Organise your own races, and create your own hierachy while retaining class legal parts and rules and
    send your best overseas to ILCA events.

    We do it

    Only the ILCA will lose in this deal.
    Need new boats?
    Send a representative overseas to load a container after a Worlds event with used boats and ship it home.


    THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION
    ...in this way they are much more expensive for us !
    Till last year, PRIMEX (Official Laser's factory) was in CIHLE and when the boats were in ARG,
    the price was u$s 4.000.-...........Now PRIMEX IS OUT.
    For example: a factory in Brazil could be a solution.

    Again:
    The same house in Bolivia costs 3 times less than in ARG and 100 time less than in US or Paris
    The costs of rents, energy, people...is not the same in each country.
    What must be the same is the ROYALTY.....the RIGHTS !!!!


    Yes it requires money and effort, but you aren't all on the bones of your ass!

    I HOPE OTHER LASER SAILORS FROM S.A. READ AND WRITE IN THIS FORUM

    Thanks for your e-mail !!!!
    All the best

    Dr Loser

    P.D.:....I sent your e-mail to the guy of the pic.
    yes....we all have a lot to learn !!!!
    Thanks !!!
     
  20. Chainsaw

    Chainsaw Brmmm Brmmm

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    I'm trying to figure out exactly what the difference in the cost of living is between Argentina and NZ with the info you gave me but not having much luck. My sister and brother in law worked for a NZ company in Bolivia for a while and all they said was that we don't have a coin small enough to represent the average daily wage. Not much help there.

    So here is the supplier of laser parts/boats/sails in NZ. These are the Class legal ones:

    http://tinyurl.com/572f5m

    you'll have to work out the real cost to the Argentine Peso.

    I'm not a employee of that place but they would most likely ship to you, and if the quantities were reasonable, they may "sharpen up" the price, who knows?
     
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