Anyone know much about a (Fillip) Viper 15?

Discussion in 'Sailing Talk' started by katafloat, May 16, 2012.

  1. katafloat

    katafloat Viper 15

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    I am the proud owner of a 1971 Viper made in 1971 in San Angelo. I have made the daggerboard and tiller from pine and have mahogany available for the next set when I get these patterns right. I am having trouble finding ANYTHING as a pattern for the rudder. I found a picture of a Texas Tornado rudder that has the same hardware as mine, but making a pattern from a 2" picture is a bit tricky. I found a boat for sale on CL but when I called the guy and asked for a tracing of his, or even pictures, he was almost rude. Any help? The rudder I am copying is eggplant shaped.
     
  2. Sean Bergstrom

    Sean Bergstrom New Member

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    Hi, I live in IL and just found a Viper 15. I know nothing about it. Theres absolutely nothing to it but the boat and hardware. If you could give me measurements for all standing rigging, centerboard, tiller and rudder (if you found that?), that would help so much! respond asap! want to sail before winter hits
     
  3. katafloat

    katafloat Viper 15

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    Hello Sean!!!!this may be your lucky day. I think you and I own the only 2 Viper 15s left in the world!!!!! I bought mine in April of this year and it had everything but any parts made of wood. I have patterns I can send you. The gentleman I contacted on CL did send me the original tracings...the pine I used worked great.....I am in Texas, so our season is just now beginning again.
     
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  4. katafloat

    katafloat Viper 15

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    lovingk at msn dot com
     
  5. Sean Bergstrom

    Sean Bergstrom New Member

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    YES! thank you so much. i'm emailing now
     
  6. Johnny Mac

    Johnny Mac New Member

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    Hey,
    Congrats on the new boat, I just bought a 72 Viper, 15' and I have all the original rigging and the original boards if you need something; it has yet to be in the water, have to get plates for the trailer, looks like the most simple boat ever made, but seems like a nice boat, a lot of space inside for its size, no jib on mine; trying to get an estimate on getting one made, good luck, fair winds
    John
     
  7. jeannebean

    jeannebean New Member

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    Hi I am the 3rd person...must be trend...I live WI I don't know anything about sailing. You don't happen to have a manual do you? I have a main sail and a jib. Hoping to have much fun this summer with little frustration!!!
     
  8. katafloat

    katafloat Viper 15

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    Welcome to out small, elite club. I found out quite a bit about the history of the Viper 15, but have found no manuals. Try looking at the instructions for the Sunfish...quite the same. I took a local sailing class for six weeks and learned most of what I know. I have a couple of things to do before I get mine out on the water this year, but I hope to spend more time sailing than ever.
    I will look up all the facts that I have on my boat....I keep a log of trips out and other information.
    Maybe we can call sometime?
     
  9. Caveman

    Caveman New Member

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    Wow, small group! Just purchased a 1971 Fillip Viper locally in ABQ. It came basically ready to sail, but missing the battens and the dagger board is very warped/twisted. Mostly at the tip, but about a quarter of the board. How difficult is it to make a new one? This boat needs a lot of TLC, but is sail-able as is, and came with a Jib. Reminds me of a big Lazer. Looks very tippy, but how does it sail? Very excited to learn on this and a little Butterfly.
     
  10. Caveman

    Caveman New Member

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    FillipViperBrochureF.jpg FillipViperBrochureB.jpg Found this this brochure with the title! Look at that sheen on the deck in the lower right photo..... the one I found is far from that condition.
     
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  11. katafloat

    katafloat Viper 15

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    Hello Caveman! So happy to hear from you. I have made my daggerboard from southern yellow pine and with a lot of marine varnish it has yet to warp. Probably sunlight is the major foe of wood. I had to replace all the lines on my Viper, Braver, but that was a labor of love. I put on a coat of good fiberglass polish on the topside....didn't do much good, but maybe a coat a year would help. They make paint and I have seen pictures of "after" but it didn't get me out on the water. Check to make sure the bolt ropes on the sails are in good shape. I noticed my sails were getting harder and harder to get up, then realized the boltropes were disintegrating into white powder. Being the handyperson I am, I ordered the rope and replaced them myself. Not much a job if you have a good sewing machine handy. I had to replace two battens....find the nearest thickness board in the small lumber section of Lowes and sand it down by hand. I have measurements for almost everything from boat to rigging. Love to hear from you by email or phone. Kat
     
  12. katafloat

    katafloat Viper 15

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    Any way I could get a hard copy of the brochure....and buy anything I needed at those prices?
     
  13. Caveman

    Caveman New Member

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    Can you imagine, 120 for a new sail?!
     
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    jeannebean New Member

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    Went for the inaugural sail today. Not much wind but sure was fun. Lots to learn that is for sure!!!
     

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  15. Caveman

    Caveman New Member

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    Congrats jeannebean! That's a sharp looking sail and your making a wake, nicely done.

    Kat, the brochure I scanned is written all over with my boat boat and trailer info by the previous owner and has a dealer stamps with phone numbers. I took them out in Photoshop before posting, so it will stay with the titles. Sorry. Might be the one!
     
  16. jeannebean

    jeannebean New Member

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    Thanks CM, It is great knowing everything is working!!!
     
  17. jeannebean

    jeannebean New Member

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    Hey All, Does anyone have a good method and product for waxing/polishing/general spiffing up this old viper?
     
  18. Wavedancer

    Wavedancer Upside down? Staff Member

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    For starters, give the boat a good scrubbing with Comet or SoftScrub With Bleach

    PS: In your photo, the angle of the boom looks odd, or is it just a photographic artefact?
     
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  19. jeannebean

    jeannebean New Member

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    I will try the soft scrub routine...thanks...Don't know if the angle of the boom is odd or not. It only fits on one way ..LOL I don't think I could mess that up...but them I am a rookie. I raised the height of the boom where it travels up and down on the mast so that I could see more...Any ideas let me know. Thanks for the cleaning tip, I will let you know if it helps!!! Ps do you all stuff your sails into the bag or fold them?
     
  20. jeannebean

    jeannebean New Member

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    Hey Wavedancer, Kat, Caveman, Sean,I tried sailing again yesterday. It was pretty windy and after 2 unsuccessful attempts at launching I decided to call it quits....this rookie did not want to get hurt before she got started...
    So anyway.....I am thinking about the angle of the boom and have been looking at other pictures, I think you pointed it out...the boom really slopes to the stern end...do you think this could be remedied by loosening the shrouds and tighening the mainstay? It does appear the mast is vertical so I am not sure I should start adjusting things like this without really knowing how I will impact other forces....what do you think? Also when I was hoisting the mainsail it stuck about 6 inches from the top....I don't see any reason why this should have happened any advice would be appreciated! Jeannebean
     

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