1974 SF metal bailer removal

I think I have done a decent search for info, in the cockpit the metal cap was gone when I bought the boat. I have removed the broken metal nut exposing about 1/2 of the pipe threads. I tried to encourage what's left of the bailer assembly by placing a length of 2x4 on top of the threaded pipe inside the cockpit and giving it a couple of wacks with a hammer. It didn't budge. From underneath the boat, it appears that there is a 1/8" gap between the bailer and the fiberglass, maybe a gasket or caulk had once been there. I gently tried to move or turn the bailer assembly from underneath the boat, also without success.

So, have I left out a step? Maybe it is seated with marine tex or something similar? I have found a small pvc threaded cap that screws inside the pipe from the cockpit. The pipe is treaded both outside and inside. The pvc cap with a little electrical tape wrapped ala plumbers tape makes a pretty snug fit.

1. Leave it alone and live with the inconvenience? ...or

2. Take another approach to removal and replace with a new plastic bailer.

If option two is the way to go, how might you guys try and get the thing out of there? It shows no signs of loosening up?

thanks, jim
 
I have used a grinder to remove being careful not to grind into fiberglass. I make two slices in order to break apart the remaining part. Then replace with the plastic bailer.
 
I'd be a little less gentle and use a pipe wrench or a vise-grip to turn the bailer from under the hull while trying not to scratch the fiberglass. I'm sure it's seized but if you work it back and forth it should eventually come off.
 
Be careful with the pipe wrench as well as you could chip gelcoat in the process of turning the wrench and bailer. Maybe soak with PB Baster first a couple of times.
 
Today I triumphed!! Old pot metal bailer is gone, with the help of sharpened screwdriver to did out the "caulk", vice grips to assist in the loosening of the stubborn relic, and a good thump with the 16oz hammer. It literally flew out of the hole. I ordered a modern replacement from Intensity and am now almost ready to go sailing. Lots of fun for the old man.
 
Hey Jim

Take a good look at the inside of the bailer hole, and make sure that there is not a split in the seam between the cockpit floor and the hull. We should always check that but whacking the bailer with a hammer might open a small gap (ask me how I know...). If there is a gap, fill it with epoxy.
 
Clark, thanks for the info. It does not seem to be split at all. I was happy when I got the old one out to see that the cockpit tub and hull were tight together. Since my bailer doesn't arrive until Saturday. I'll throw a little epoxy on there just to make sure.

Question: Is the bailer installed with caulking, or are rubber washers used to form the seal? Thanks. j
 
The bailer comes with an o-ring for the bottom of the hull and the flapper is used to gasket the "nut" part. Some people don't like the gap on the bottom and will use silicone to seal around it. Racers remove the o-ring for a snug fit but I don't believe that is legal for sanctioned regattas.
 

Back
Top